[RTTY] Q Rate Killers

[Steve Bookout]

Guys,

A real example of 'changing as needed' happened this weekend.

The big European antenna developed a high SWR, so we had to use a less 
than optimum antenna.  (We destroyed a lightning arrestor with the high 
duty cycle.)  The replacement antenna was a low inverted Vee intended 
for domestic use, with a higher take off angle and less gain to EU.

Because of this, we had to modify our exchange because we just were no 
longer loud into Europe.

But, we were loud 'somewhere'.  A station from PA followed up his QSO 
with 'May I ask you a question?', the 80 meter op typed 'sure'.  
Question was 'How much pwr and ant?'  Told him '1400 watts and inverted 
vee at 72 feet'.  He said we were 60db over S-9.  So, I guess we were 
loud somewhere, just not where we needed it.  He did NOT ask for a repeat...

Steve, NR4M



On 9/26/2016 10:22:PM, Steve Bookout wrote:
> Art,
>
> It would depend upon how well your station plays (loud).
>
> If condx are good, and you have a good path to where your target DX 
> is, then maybe just 'his call', 'state' and 'zone', without your call 
> would be enough in the exchange.  If condx get noisy, QRM or QRN, then 
> you may need his call and your call with a couple of 'state' and 
> 'zone' exchanges.
>
> You need to do as much as you need to, but only that much, in order to 
> cleanly make the QSO, with few repeats.
>
> 100 watts and a dipole will most likely require a diffAerent exchange  
> than 1500 watts and stacked yagis.
>
> 73 de Steve, NR4M
>
>
> On 9/26/2016 10:02:PM, Art (K5FNQ) wrote:
>> then what is the recommended minimum and maximum to send?
>>
>> N1MM default has "his call, sec, state, sec, state, mycall"
>>
>> At times with a strong station I would hit escape before "my call" 
>> was sent.  I had no problem with that.
>>
>> Cutting to "sec state sec state" scares me that the other station 
>> might not have my call or I might have busted his?
>>
>> Art K5FNQ
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/26/2016 20:56, Steve Bookout wrote:
>>>
>>> If you can be loud, then you can send less stuff. Unfortunately, not 
>>> everyone can be loud all the time.
>>>
>>> I start with one of each exchange element and if it's noisy and I'm 
>>> getting a bunch or requests for repeats, then I'll add additional 
>>> exchange info.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On 9/26/2016 9:16:PM, Jeff AC0C wrote:
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> The exchange content for peak efficiency is just on the border 
>>>> where you are infrequently asked for a fill.  If you almost never 
>>>> get a request, then I would say your content is too redundant. 
>>>> Keeping it simple, on the next contest drop your exchange by one of 
>>>> each element and see how it goes. In any event, do drop the "UR" 
>>>> out of it in all cases.
>>>>
>>>> Have fun!
>>>>
>>>> 73/jeff/ac0c
>>>> www.ac0c.com
>>>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Magarelli
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:37 PM
>>>> To: RTTY at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Q Rate Killers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if I'm one of the guilty parties
>>>>
>>>> My exchange was   K4SBZ  UR 599 NJ NJ NJ 05 05 05
>>>>
>>>> My thought was to send my state and zone 3 times, hopefully not 
>>>> needing a
>>>> repeat. That seemed to work I only had 1 station ask me for a 
>>>> repeat of my
>>>> State. My thinking was not having a lot of repeats, I could make more
>>>> contacts and move along quicker.
>>>>
>>>> Please tell me if my thinking is wrong. I'm not in the big league 
>>>> either,
>>>> just trying to have some fun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Stanley
>>>> Zawrotny
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:41 PM
>>>> To: RTTY at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: [RTTY] Q Rate Killers
>>>>
>>>> A while back, there was a discussion about how extra spaces and 
>>>> characters
>>>> slow down an exchange. Those a nothing compared to the many ops that I
>>>> worked in the CQ WW DX RTTY Contest last weekend that took 15-20 
>>>> seconds or
>>>> longer to reply. I'm not in the big leagues and worry about 
>>>> milliseconds,
>>>> but when it takes almost a minute to complete a contact, that gets 
>>>> to me.
>>>>
>>>> Stan, K4SBZ
>>>>
>>>> "Real radio bounces off the sky."
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