[RTTY] Q Rate Killers

[John Barber]

Agree .. the exchange needs to match conditions. Most of last weekend, the
ideal report from the US was '599 state zone state zone ' when giving a
report to a CQing station. It's vital to change the macro as signal levels
change to get that balance between speed and avoiding repeats.
My sent report when CQing was 'hiscall 599 14' but changed to 'hiscall 599
14 hiscall' when working a run of very weak JA stations. That maybe changed
a 10% 1st time reply to 95% first time reply. It's not worth repeating 599
14 as they are known to all.
When the report gets cut too short and too quick it can be really annoying.
P49X was sending 'hiscall 599 09' with no space at the end or maybe cutting
TX too quickly. 3 contacts and I didn't print the zone once! Sorry Ed.
John GW4SKA





-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: 27 September 2016 03:54
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Q Rate Killers

NR4M's reply is the real answer I think. You need to be willing to adjust
based on conditions and your station capabilities.

I find that 'his_call rst exch state his_call' (for CQWW RTTY) can be
helpful when running and a few stations are calling. The first 'his call'
may get clobbered but the DX will usually hear the second and be certain
your call is directed at him. If they need a repeat I may use F7 with the
exch and state each sent twice. I use 'his_call TU my_call' for
F3 which will hopefully finalize in the DX operator's mind what my call is.
Don't forget that if you get spotted it often doesn't matter what you send
for your call - "the cluster is always right"(?!) and so what is on the
cluster is obviously your call.

73, Larry W6NWS


On 9/26/2016 10:02 PM, Art (K5FNQ) wrote:
> then what is the recommended minimum and maximum to send?
>
> N1MM default has "his call, sec, state, sec, state, mycall"
>
> At times with a strong station I would hit escape before "my call" was 
> sent.  I had no problem with that.
>
> Cutting to "sec state sec state" scares me that the other station 
> might not have my call or I might have busted his?
>
> Art K5FNQ
>
>
>
> On 9/26/2016 20:56, Steve Bookout wrote:
>>
>> If you can be loud, then you can send less stuff. Unfortunately, not 
>> everyone can be loud all the time.
>>
>> I start with one of each exchange element and if it's noisy and I'm 
>> getting a bunch or requests for repeats, then I'll add additional 
>> exchange info.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 9/26/2016 9:16:PM, Jeff AC0C wrote:
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> The exchange content for peak efficiency is just on the border where 
>>> you are infrequently asked for a fill.  If you almost never get a 
>>> request, then I would say your content is too redundant. Keeping it 
>>> simple, on the next contest drop your exchange by one of each 
>>> element and see how it goes.  In any event, do drop the "UR" out of 
>>> it in all cases.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>> 73/jeff/ac0c
>>> www.ac0c.com
>>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Magarelli
>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:37 PM
>>> To: RTTY at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Q Rate Killers
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if I'm one of the guilty parties
>>>
>>> My exchange was   K4SBZ  UR 599 NJ NJ NJ 05 05 05
>>>
>>> My thought was to send my state and zone 3 times, hopefully not 
>>> needing a repeat. That seemed to work I only had 1 station ask me 
>>> for a repeat of my State. My thinking was not having a lot of 
>>> repeats, I could make more contacts and move along quicker.
>>>
>>> Please tell me if my thinking is wrong. I'm not in the big league 
>>> either, just trying to have some fun.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Stanley
>>> Zawrotny
>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:41 PM
>>> To: RTTY at contesting.com
>>> Subject: [RTTY] Q Rate Killers
>>>
>>> A while back, there was a discussion about how extra spaces and 
>>> characters
>>> slow down an exchange. Those a nothing compared to the many ops that I
>>> worked in the CQ WW DX RTTY Contest last weekend that took 15-20 
>>> seconds or
>>> longer to reply. I'm not in the big leagues and worry about 
>>> milliseconds,
>>> but when it takes almost a minute to complete a contact, that gets 
>>> to me.
>>>
>>> Stan, K4SBZ
>>>
>>> "Real radio bounces off the sky."
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