[RTTY] Upside-down RTTY contest QSO's

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

I had about 6 of these types of contacts in the Roundup.  I think it is 
people not understanding the flow.  Everything is wonderful when in 
sync.  Not so much when this happens!  HI!

W0MU


On 2/13/2017 2:54 PM, Jim Irving wrote:
> Perhaps F1AKE was trying to be as nice as possible and a new contester 
> to boot.  I hope that contact doesn't read your post as it tends to 
> put people
> off contesting.  If you feel that strong about doing things to your 
> satisfaction why don't you put out a video on youtube.
> Jim
> Amateur Radio Station..ZL2BMH
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Tim Shoppa" <tshoppa at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:40 AM
> To: <rtty at contesting.com>
> Subject: [RTTY] Upside-down RTTY contest QSO's
>
>> I had maybe 20-30 callers this weekend (out of 1600+ Q's) who had what I
>> call "upside down" exchanges.
>>
>> I call: CQ CQ TEST N3QE N3QE CQ
>>
>> These upside down guys come back to my CQ with: N3QE DE F1AKE 599 014 
>> 014
>> 014
>>
>> Yes, that's right, he doesn't just send his call, he sends his 
>> exchange in
>> reply to my CQ.
>>
>> I then reply with my usual macro: F1AKE 599 1245 1245 F1AKE
>>
>> Then, well, things kinda fall apart. Sometimes the guy just disappears,
>> after all he did get both sides of the exchange. Other times he comes 
>> back
>> with: N3QE TU DE F1AKE SK
>>
>> Then anyone listening in is confused. Does N3QE own the run frequency or
>> F1AKE? It's not at all obvious.
>>
>> I first encountered this unusual upside-down style when I was at the
>> "Digital modes" Field Day desk a few years ago.  On field day, maybe 
>> 30% of
>> RTTY Q's and more than half of the PSK31 QSO's had this upside-down 
>> style.
>> I would guess that there's some common digital-mode software package 
>> that
>> suggests this as the default S&P exchange macro, or maybe the
>> software-package doesn't even differentiate between RUN and S&P Macros.
>>
>> Is there any hope of educating these guys? They seem to be increasingly
>> prevalent in contests. I wanted to start lecturing these guys over 
>> RTTY as
>> to what they're doing wrong but didn't want to waste the time, and maybe
>> they're using some dumb software that has to work this way or something.
>>
>> I feel that very related, I would be running a frequency, working a guy,
>> not even close to done working him, and some local guys who I know 
>> are PSK
>> enthusiasts would show up on the frequency and call the guy with an
>> exchange, acting like they had NO IDEA what phase the QSO or who was
>> running the frequency.
>>
>> Tim N3QE
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