[RTTY] After the tough qso

David G3YYD g3yyd2 at btinternet.com
Sat Feb 17 04:09:08 EST 2018


Whether I log a potentially incorrect QSO or not depends on the contest scoring system. If there are no penalties for busted calls, incorrect SR and so forth then I will log it.

But if there are penalties for busted calls, etc then I will not log it. I will have tried to complete the QSO but if it does not conclude to my satisfaction I will not log it. Because I do not want to suffer a penalty. 

There is away round this and that is to log the QSO and mark it as X-QSO in the Cabrillo format. This means it is a check QSO and not one submitted for points so then the other guy does not suffer a NIL. You do not loose points either nor do you gain points. But how many contest logging programs allow for this to be done at the time of logging the Q? N1MM+ doesn't and that is the contest logger I have used for must be 2 decades now.

73 David G3YYD


-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ed W0YK
Sent: 16 February 2018 19:58
To: Pierre Fogal; RTTY at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] After the tough qso

This is an excellent  question, Pierre.
I say log it.  If he didn't log it, then you will get a NIL.  But, if he did log it and you didn't  then he gets the NIL.
In a 50/50 situation like this, I take the risk of a NIL rather than put that on the other station.  I think its good sportsmanship. 73,Ed W0YK
-------- Original message --------From: Pierre Fogal <pierre.fogal at gmail.com> Date: 2/16/18  10:09 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: RTTY at contesting.com Subject: [RTTY] After the tough qso Hi folks,

I haven't been doing RTTY contesting all that long, and I have done what I can to read everything you sage folk out there write about exchanges.  So, I hope I'm keeping mine succinct enough!

What I'm not completing sure about, in the case of tough qsos (interrupted or non-existent print) are the expectations of verifying that it was actually completed and the other guy hasn't just given up.

For example

.... AB1CD  cq

VE3KTB VE3KTB

VE3KTB 599 991 991

AB1CD 599 001 001 VE3KTB

NR? NR?

001 001 001

Nr &%$#

001 001 001

@#$@#$ %4 &%$#

001 001 001

##$#$%^%$#

& KTB $%*( AB1CD CQ
The various %$&@ are to represent the non printable signals coming through.  I can recognize things like '57' as 'TU' but I don't know if he's got it or he's saying sorry ...

So far, I've logged it unless I have a really strong sense that they gave up.

73,
Pierre VE3KTB
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