[RTTY] After the tough qso

[Ed Muns]

Despite the quoted definition below of the X-QSO: Cabrillo tag, it is not
"ignored".  In fact, the whole point of X-QSO: is that the QSO is
cross-checked with the log of the QSO partner.  But the X-QSO: is just not
scored, or penalized, in your own log.

Secondly, what is written below about WriteLog is only true for version
12.21 and earlier.  Starting with 12.22, a "unclaimed" QSO is included in
the Cabrillo log as an X-QSO: line.

Ed W0YK
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-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: 17 February, 2018 11:23
To: 'Pierre Fogal'; 'Jeff Stai'
Cc: 'Ed W0YK'; 'REFL-RTTY'
Subject: Re: [RTTY] After the tough qso

>From the Cabrillo web pages:

X-<anything>: text
Lines beginning with X- are ignored by the robot and log checking software.
Use this for adding comment lines to your log. Exception: See X-QSO below.

X-QSO: qso-data
Any QSO marked with this tag will be ignored in your log. Use to mark QSOs
made that you do not want to count toward your score.

Just tried this with writelog and the CW DX contest log.   Marked a QSO as
"Unclaimed"   
In past and today, writelog does NOT write that qso to the Cabrillo file

To make it fair to the guy that made a qso but I'm not sure: 
This requires the side note pad.   For example:  P4/K9RS & I finished the
qso but not sure (at 2359 and no time for dupe it) 
I don't want him to lose the qso but I'm not sure
Log it - make a note to X it and manually edit the Cabrillo file after the
contest....

Seems like path 

OR if P5/W5AJ shows up in the contest and I'm working QRP
On comes the Amp, work him and then mark it unclaimed "X" for my score

Close? 

73 Robert W5AJ


-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pierre Fogal
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:55 PM
To: Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com>
Cc: Ed W0YK <ed at w0yk.com>; REFL-RTTY <RTTY at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] After the tough qso

Thanks for the continuing education guys!

I'm heading for VY0 in the morning, and I should be on with VY0ERC for the
NAQP RTTY.  Some of you may have worked VE1RUS who is currently on site, as
VY0ERC during WPX.

73,
Pierre VE3KTB

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:

> What Ed said (I agree with Ed a lot...) I would add that in the case 
> where you really feel you didn't finish - the other guy gave up - just 
> call again. I do see that sometimes and I just resend my TU KS7AA CQ 
> again, maybe send it twice if I think that will help. 73 jeff wk6i
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:57 AM, Ed W0YK <ed at w0yk.com> wrote:
>
>> This is an excellent  question, Pierre.
>> I say log it.  If he didn't log it, then you will get a NIL.  But, if 
>> he did log it and you didn't  then he gets the NIL.
>> In a 50/50 situation like this, I take the risk of a NIL rather than 
>> put that on the other station.  I think its good sportsmanship.
>> 73,Ed W0YK
>> -------- Original message --------From: Pierre Fogal < 
>> pierre.fogal at gmail.com> Date: 2/16/18  10:09 AM  (GMT-08:00) To:
>> RTTY at contesting.com Subject: [RTTY] After the tough qso Hi folks,
>>
>> I haven't been doing RTTY contesting all that long, and I have done 
>> what I can to read everything you sage folk out there write about 
>> exchanges.  So, I hope I'm keeping mine succinct enough!
>>
>> What I'm not completing sure about, in the case of tough qsos 
>> (interrupted or non-existent print) are the expectations of verifying 
>> that it was actually completed and the other guy hasn't just given up.
>>
>> For example
>>
>> .... AB1CD  cq
>>
>> VE3KTB VE3KTB
>>
>> VE3KTB 599 991 991
>>
>> AB1CD 599 001 001 VE3KTB
>>
>> NR? NR?
>>
>> 001 001 001
>>
>> Nr &%$#
>>
>> 001 001 001
>>
>> @#$@#$ %4 &%$#
>>
>> 001 001 001
>>
>> ##$#$%^%$#
>>
>> & KTB $%*( AB1CD CQ
>> The various %$&@ are to represent the non printable signals coming 
>> through.  I can recognize things like '57' as 'TU' but I don't know 
>> if he's got it or he's saying sorry ...
>>
>> So far, I've logged it unless I have a really strong sense that they 
>> gave up.
>>
>> 73,
>> Pierre VE3KTB
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