[SCCC] Sunspots

[Art]

Rick wrote:

Can we blame Global Warming?

Heck. Blame President Bush. He's taking the hit for everything else that 
isn't his fault.

73 Art

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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:29:20 -0800 (PST)
> From: rick darwicki <n6pe at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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> Can we blame Global Warming?
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:56:39 -0800
> From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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> You have cause and effect backwards.  Even if the Earth could be steered to 
> cause it to plummet into the sun, mankind could still have no influence on 
> the sun's fluctuations except for one temporary smudge on the sun's surface. 
> Except for the effects of deforestation, man's influence on the Earth's 
> climate is equally tiny -- man's output of greenhouse gasses is 
> infinitesimal compared to natural sources.  "Global warming" is beginning to 
> be recognized as bad science.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "rick darwicki" <n6pe at yahoo.com>
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> Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:39:58 -0800
> From: Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com>
> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Sun Spots
> To: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
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> Leigh,
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> Even the most ardent skeptics I've read typically acknowledge the notion 
> that human industrial activity is responsible for the significant rise 
> in atmospheric CO2 levels that have occurred over the last century.  
> What they dispute is how much of observed climate change can be 
> attributed to manmade factors such as increased CO2 level (skeptics 
> argue that natural factors are the dominant component).
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> FWIW, while there are a number of skeptics with the requisite 
> credentials to really understand the details of the science (Lindzen and 
> Christie are two names that come to mind), they seem to be in the 
> minority. Although admittedly not a climate scientist, even arch 
> skeptic/debunker Michael Schermer recently changed his position from 
> that of a skeptic over to acceptance of anthropomorphic global warming. 
> That kind of did it for me, but with all the coal reserves in the US and 
> the messy geopolitics of petroleum, I would be happy to be proven wrong.
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> To brings things back towards ham radio and contesting (have to tie that 
> in somehow), it is interesting to note that low sunspots represent a 
> negative forcing factor for global warming (i.e. low sunspots should 
> push the climate towards colder temperatures). This makes it hard to 
> know what to pray for :-)
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> 73 & HNY, Mike W4EF................
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> Leigh S. Jones, KR6X wrote:
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>> You have cause and effect backwards.  Even if the Earth could be steered to 
>> cause it to plummet into the sun, mankind could still have no influence on 
>> the sun's fluctuations except for one temporary smudge on the sun's surface. 
>> Except for the effects of deforestation, man's influence on the Earth's 
>> climate is equally tiny -- man's output of greenhouse gasses is 
>> infinitesimal compared to natural sources.  "Global warming" is beginning to 
>> be recognized as bad science.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "rick darwicki" <n6pe at yahoo.com>
>> To: <sccc at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:29 AM
>> Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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