[SCCC] Sunspots

Michael Tope W4EF at dellroy.com
Fri Jan 2 13:40:29 EST 2009 

Art,

I think it was Rod Blagojevich's fault. He must have taken bribes from 
the BPL industry in exchange for suppressing sunspots to discourage 
interest in HF ham radio activity :-)

73 & HNY,

Mike W4EF.....................


Art wrote:

>Rick wrote:
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>Can we blame Global Warming?
>
>Heck. Blame President Bush. He's taking the hit for everything else that 
>isn't his fault.
>
>73 Art
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:29:20 -0800 (PST)
>>From: rick darwicki <n6pe at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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>>Can we blame Global Warming?
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>>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:56:39 -0800
>>From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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>>You have cause and effect backwards.  Even if the Earth could be steered to 
>>cause it to plummet into the sun, mankind could still have no influence on 
>>the sun's fluctuations except for one temporary smudge on the sun's surface. 
>>Except for the effects of deforestation, man's influence on the Earth's 
>>climate is equally tiny -- man's output of greenhouse gasses is 
>>infinitesimal compared to natural sources.  "Global warming" is beginning to 
>>be recognized as bad science.
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>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "rick darwicki" <n6pe at yahoo.com>
>>To: <sccc at contesting.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:29 AM
>>Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:39:58 -0800
>>From: Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SCCC] Sun Spots
>>To: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
>>Cc: sccc at contesting.com
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>>Leigh,
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>>Even the most ardent skeptics I've read typically acknowledge the notion 
>>that human industrial activity is responsible for the significant rise 
>>in atmospheric CO2 levels that have occurred over the last century.  
>>What they dispute is how much of observed climate change can be 
>>attributed to manmade factors such as increased CO2 level (skeptics 
>>argue that natural factors are the dominant component).
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>>FWIW, while there are a number of skeptics with the requisite 
>>credentials to really understand the details of the science (Lindzen and 
>>Christie are two names that come to mind), they seem to be in the 
>>minority. Although admittedly not a climate scientist, even arch 
>>skeptic/debunker Michael Schermer recently changed his position from 
>>that of a skeptic over to acceptance of anthropomorphic global warming. 
>>That kind of did it for me, but with all the coal reserves in the US and 
>>the messy geopolitics of petroleum, I would be happy to be proven wrong.
>>
>>To brings things back towards ham radio and contesting (have to tie that 
>>in somehow), it is interesting to note that low sunspots represent a 
>>negative forcing factor for global warming (i.e. low sunspots should 
>>push the climate towards colder temperatures). This makes it hard to 
>>know what to pray for :-)
>>
>>73 & HNY, Mike W4EF................
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>>Leigh S. Jones, KR6X wrote:
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>>>You have cause and effect backwards.  Even if the Earth could be steered to 
>>>cause it to plummet into the sun, mankind could still have no influence on 
>>>the sun's fluctuations except for one temporary smudge on the sun's surface. 
>>>Except for the effects of deforestation, man's influence on the Earth's 
>>>climate is equally tiny -- man's output of greenhouse gasses is 
>>>infinitesimal compared to natural sources.  "Global warming" is beginning to 
>>>be recognized as bad science.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "rick darwicki" <n6pe at yahoo.com>
>>>To: <sccc at contesting.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:29 AM
>>>Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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