[SCCC] Sunspots

[Art Goddard]

It makes no never mind whose fault it is, the League has a 5-year plan to 
address the sunspot situation.

HNY,

Art  W6XD




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com>
To: "Art" <k6xt at arrl.net>
Cc: <sccc at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Sunspots


> Art,
>
> I think it was Rod Blagojevich's fault. He must have taken bribes from
> the BPL industry in exchange for suppressing sunspots to discourage
> interest in HF ham radio activity :-)
>
> 73 & HNY,
>
> Mike W4EF.....................
>
>
> Art wrote:
>
>>Rick wrote:
>>
>>Can we blame Global Warming?
>>
>>Heck. Blame President Bush. He's taking the hit for everything else that
>>isn't his fault.
>>
>>73 Art
>>
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>>>Message: 1
>>>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:29:20 -0800 (PST)
>>>From: rick darwicki <n6pe at yahoo.com>
>>>Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
>>>To: sccc at contesting.com
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>>>Can we blame Global Warming?
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>>>Message: 2
>>>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:56:39 -0800
>>>From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [SCCC] Sun Spots
>>>To: sccc at contesting.com
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>>>You have cause and effect backwards.  Even if the Earth could be steered 
>>>to
>>>cause it to plummet into the sun, mankind could still have no influence 
>>>on
>>>the sun's fluctuations except for one temporary smudge on the sun's 
>>>surface.
>>>Except for the effects of deforestation, man's influence on the Earth's
>>>climate is equally tiny -- man's output of greenhouse gasses is
>>>infinitesimal compared to natural sources.  "Global warming" is beginning 
>>>to
>>>be recognized as bad science.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "rick darwicki" <n6pe at yahoo.com>
>>>To: <sccc at contesting.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:29 AM
>>>Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
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>>>Message: 3
>>>Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:39:58 -0800
>>>From: Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [SCCC] Sun Spots
>>>To: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
>>>Cc: sccc at contesting.com
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>>>Leigh,
>>>
>>>Even the most ardent skeptics I've read typically acknowledge the notion
>>>that human industrial activity is responsible for the significant rise
>>>in atmospheric CO2 levels that have occurred over the last century.
>>>What they dispute is how much of observed climate change can be
>>>attributed to manmade factors such as increased CO2 level (skeptics
>>>argue that natural factors are the dominant component).
>>>
>>>FWIW, while there are a number of skeptics with the requisite
>>>credentials to really understand the details of the science (Lindzen and
>>>Christie are two names that come to mind), they seem to be in the
>>>minority. Although admittedly not a climate scientist, even arch
>>>skeptic/debunker Michael Schermer recently changed his position from
>>>that of a skeptic over to acceptance of anthropomorphic global warming.
>>>That kind of did it for me, but with all the coal reserves in the US and
>>>the messy geopolitics of petroleum, I would be happy to be proven wrong.
>>>
>>>To brings things back towards ham radio and contesting (have to tie that
>>>in somehow), it is interesting to note that low sunspots represent a
>>>negative forcing factor for global warming (i.e. low sunspots should
>>>push the climate towards colder temperatures). This makes it hard to
>>>know what to pray for :-)
>>>
>>>73 & HNY, Mike W4EF................
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Leigh S. Jones, KR6X wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>You have cause and effect backwards.  Even if the Earth could be steered 
>>>>to
>>>>cause it to plummet into the sun, mankind could still have no influence 
>>>>on
>>>>the sun's fluctuations except for one temporary smudge on the sun's 
>>>>surface.
>>>>Except for the effects of deforestation, man's influence on the Earth's
>>>>climate is equally tiny -- man's output of greenhouse gasses is
>>>>infinitesimal compared to natural sources.  "Global warming" is 
>>>>beginning to
>>>>be recognized as bad science.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "rick darwicki" <n6pe at yahoo.com>
>>>>To: <sccc at contesting.com>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:29 AM
>>>>Subject: [SCCC] Sun Spots
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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