[SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF , connectors? (Which morphed into Skimmer)

Dave LaBat dlabat at ca.rr.com
Fri Oct 22 22:33:00 PDT 2010


No valves in that TR-7, must be the TR-4CW holding it up!, My J-38 is 
waiting..... I think I still remember how it works.. up and down right?

Dave NT6AA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Neiger" <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
To: "H Lawrence Serra" <hlserra at sbcglobal.net>; <sccc at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF ,connectors? (Which 
morphed into Skimmer)


> Not sure what you mean about "advancing age", Larry.  Not me...........
>
> Oh, I have no problem with advancing technology.  MY singular problem is 
> the
> having someone else find the DX ; maybe figuring out the correct 
> call-sign,
> and then think they're doing something that resembles skill,
> DXing,"operating", etc.  Might as well get out the white pages, and call 
> on
> the twisted pair.
>
> Yes, Chas UQF was indeed 'special', in many regards.  Always fun/funny to
> know.
>
> Well, in my 35 years of contesting before ever using a computer,
> pen/pencil/eraser/paper  was the norm.  It's all we had.  Can't say my 
> 5704
> QSO's in the 1969 ARRL DX CW were logged "meticulously": pen/ink on legal
> size tablet, before memory keyers even (I guess I did demean my skills by
> using a Hallicrafters HA-1 electronic  keyer), but it was a new world
> record, and special to me 'cuz  I did it without any crutches.  This is
> undoubtedly boring to read; sorry.  But unless one has experienced the
> Golden Years, it's impossible to relate.
>
> By the way, I have a TR-7 in the closet.  Doesn't it have vacuum tubes?
> Glenn said I can borrow his J-38.  Let's go, Larry.
>
> 73
>
> Jim  N6TJ
>
>
>
>
> From: "H Lawrence Serra" <hlserra at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 6:42 AM
> To: <sccc at contesting.com>; "Jim Neiger" <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF ,connectors? 
> (Which
> morphed into Skimmer)
>
>> Sorry, Jim, I'm not into that kind of abuse. But it is humorous the way
>> the contesting Luddites choose which technology advances are pure or
>> impure, or fair or unfair. Just an insidious sign of advancing age I
>> guess.
>>
>> Personally, I think CW contest hand logging as DX is the most impressive
>> skill I've witnessed. On one of our 6E2T expeditions to Mexico a monitor
>> didn't work in the opening few hours. Good ol' Charlie Oakes W6UQF (SK)
>> worked 881 CW Qs and neatly and meticulously hand-logged them all before
>> we got a replacement monitor.
>>
>> 73, Larry N6NC
>>
>> --- On Thu, 10/21/10, Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> From: Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF ,connectors?
>> (Which morphed into Skimmer)
>> To: "H Lawrence Serra" <hlserra at sbcglobal.net>, sccc at contesting.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 10:46 PM
>>
>> Indeed.  Let's have some "pure" fun, Larry.   J-38 keys, paper and 
>> pencil,
>> 48-straight.  Let me know when you're ready.  How about ARRL DX in Feb. 
>> ??
>> A nice friendly One Dollar wager?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "H Lawrence Serra" <hlserra at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:21 PM
>> To: <sccc at contesting.com>; "Jim Neiger" <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF ,connectors?
>> (Which morphed into Skimmer)
>>
>>> Jim-
>>>
>>> All good natured fun, but be sure to leave your computer and computer
>>> logging program, electronic keying and such home to maintain the purity
>>> you seek.
>>>
>>> GL in the 'tests. My contest robot will try to work you while I am at 
>>> the
>>> beach.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Larry N6NC
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 10/21/10, Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF , connectors?
>>> (Which morphed into Skimmer)
>>> To: sccc at contesting.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 8:59 PM
>>>
>>> oops.  What I had intended as a tongue-in-cheek comment sure brought-out
>>> some serious skimmers.  Sorry fellows, I  did not intend to raise your
>>> ire,
>>> defense, or wrath.  Sorry sorry sorry.
>>>
>>> I will close simply with this:
>>>
>>> to K6XtraTerrific:  a skimmer is simply not DXing and does not
>>> demonstrate
>>> the skills I know you to have................
>>>
>>> to N6NC: as much as thou skimmer-ites think the battle is "ancient and
>>> won",
>>> maybe/maybe not.  At least it hasn't dragged itself into SSB contesting,
>>> and
>>> different crutches will have to be deployed, I guess.......
>>>
>>> and to K6LL:  My generation of  SS'ers, and friends and idols, all,
>>> W4KFC,
>>> W9IOP, KH6IJ, would roll over in their graves if they knew the so-called
>>> UNLIMITED category was somehow being proffered as the Sweepstakes .
>>>
>>> 73, and with no malice intended.
>>>
>>> WH7V  next weekend WWSSB
>>>
>>> 9Y4W  next month WWCW (will be doing my best to avoid being skimmerized)
>>>
>>> and I'm IDing my calls above in case you have trouble
>>> copying................
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim N6TJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Art K6XT" <k6xt at arrl.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:31 PM
>>> To: <sccc at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF , connectors?
>>> (Which
>>> morphed into Skimmer)
>>>
>>>> Not to mention its utility for general purpose DXing. Better than a
>>>> packet spot in that it turns unknown quantities into knowns. If my
>>>> skimmer with its admittedly crummy antenna can hear a DX, the theory is
>>>> so will I. With W3OA's adjunct "SkimScan" program my skimmer can skim
>>>> the cream on several bands in a few minutes, spotting to my logger all
>>>> the juicy stuff my station can hear. Works tirelessly in the 
>>>> background.
>>>> Etc etc.
>>>>
>>>> Awright back into my little cubbyhole.
>>>> 73 Art
>>>> Allison, Colorado
>>>> Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place,
>>>> so it doesn't take much to set us off !
>>>>
>>>> On 2010-10-21 13:00, sccc-request at contesting.com wrote:
>>>> Besides its usefulness to lots of contesters in unlimited categories
>>>> during contests, it is a very useful propagation tool in the days 
>>>> before
>>>> a contest, and an excellent archive tool after the contest to audit 
>>>> what
>>>> MULTs and Qs were available and missed due to operating skills, flukey
>>>> propagation, antenna selection, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Larry N6NC
>>>>
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