[SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF , connectors? (Which morphed into Skimmer)

[Jim Neiger]

Not sure what you mean about "advancing age", Larry.  Not me...........

Oh, I have no problem with advancing technology.  MY singular problem is the 
having someone else find the DX ; maybe figuring out the correct  call-sign, 
and then think they're doing something that resembles skill, 
DXing,"operating", etc.  Might as well get out the white pages, and call on 
the twisted pair.

Yes, Chas UQF was indeed 'special', in many regards.  Always fun/funny to 
know.

Well, in my 35 years of contesting before ever using a computer, 
pen/pencil/eraser/paper  was the norm.  It's all we had.  Can't say my 5704 
QSO's in the 1969 ARRL DX CW were logged "meticulously": pen/ink on legal 
size tablet, before memory keyers even (I guess I did demean my skills by 
using a Hallicrafters HA-1 electronic  keyer), but it was a new world 
record, and special to me 'cuz  I did it without any crutches.  This is 
undoubtedly boring to read; sorry.  But unless one has experienced the 
Golden Years, it's impossible to relate.

By the way, I have a TR-7 in the closet.  Doesn't it have vacuum tubes? 
Glenn said I can borrow his J-38.  Let's go, Larry.

73

Jim  N6TJ




From: "H Lawrence Serra" <hlserra at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 6:42 AM
To: <sccc at contesting.com>; "Jim Neiger" <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF ,connectors? (Which 
morphed into Skimmer)

> Sorry, Jim, I'm not into that kind of abuse. But it is humorous the way 
> the contesting Luddites choose which technology advances are pure or 
> impure, or fair or unfair. Just an insidious sign of advancing age I 
> guess.
>
> Personally, I think CW contest hand logging as DX is the most impressive 
> skill I've witnessed. On one of our 6E2T expeditions to Mexico a monitor 
> didn't work in the opening few hours. Good ol' Charlie Oakes W6UQF (SK) 
> worked 881 CW Qs and neatly and meticulously hand-logged them all before 
> we got a replacement monitor.
>
> 73, Larry N6NC
>
> --- On Thu, 10/21/10, Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> From: Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF ,connectors? 
> (Which morphed into Skimmer)
> To: "H Lawrence Serra" <hlserra at sbcglobal.net>, sccc at contesting.com
> Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 10:46 PM
>
> Indeed.  Let's have some "pure" fun, Larry.   J-38 keys, paper and pencil, 
> 48-straight.  Let me know when you're ready.  How about ARRL DX in Feb. ?? 
> A nice friendly One Dollar wager?
>
> Jim
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "H Lawrence Serra" <hlserra at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:21 PM
> To: <sccc at contesting.com>; "Jim Neiger" <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF ,connectors? 
> (Which morphed into Skimmer)
>
>> Jim-
>>
>> All good natured fun, but be sure to leave your computer and computer 
>> logging program, electronic keying and such home to maintain the purity 
>> you seek.
>>
>> GL in the 'tests. My contest robot will try to work you while I am at the 
>> beach.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Larry N6NC
>>
>> --- On Thu, 10/21/10, Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> From: Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF , connectors? 
>> (Which morphed into Skimmer)
>> To: sccc at contesting.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 8:59 PM
>>
>> oops.  What I had intended as a tongue-in-cheek comment sure brought-out
>> some serious skimmers.  Sorry fellows, I  did not intend to raise your 
>> ire,
>> defense, or wrath.  Sorry sorry sorry.
>>
>> I will close simply with this:
>>
>> to K6XtraTerrific:  a skimmer is simply not DXing and does not 
>> demonstrate
>> the skills I know you to have................
>>
>> to N6NC: as much as thou skimmer-ites think the battle is "ancient and 
>> won",
>> maybe/maybe not.  At least it hasn't dragged itself into SSB contesting, 
>> and
>> different crutches will have to be deployed, I guess.......
>>
>> and to K6LL:  My generation of  SS'ers, and friends and idols, all, 
>> W4KFC,
>> W9IOP, KH6IJ, would roll over in their graves if they knew the so-called
>> UNLIMITED category was somehow being proffered as the Sweepstakes .
>>
>> 73, and with no malice intended.
>>
>> WH7V  next weekend WWSSB
>>
>> 9Y4W  next month WWCW (will be doing my best to avoid being skimmerized)
>>
>> and I'm IDing my calls above in case you have trouble
>> copying................
>>
>>
>> Jim N6TJ
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Art K6XT" <k6xt at arrl.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:31 PM
>> To: <sccc at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Dow Key 110vac coaxial relay w/ UHF , connectors? 
>> (Which
>> morphed into Skimmer)
>>
>>> Not to mention its utility for general purpose DXing. Better than a
>>> packet spot in that it turns unknown quantities into knowns. If my
>>> skimmer with its admittedly crummy antenna can hear a DX, the theory is
>>> so will I. With W3OA's adjunct "SkimScan" program my skimmer can skim
>>> the cream on several bands in a few minutes, spotting to my logger all
>>> the juicy stuff my station can hear. Works tirelessly in the background.
>>> Etc etc.
>>>
>>> Awright back into my little cubbyhole.
>>> 73 Art
>>> Allison, Colorado
>>> Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place,
>>> so it doesn't take much to set us off !
>>>
>>> On 2010-10-21 13:00, sccc-request at contesting.com wrote:
>>> Besides its usefulness to lots of contesters in unlimited categories
>>> during contests, it is a very useful propagation tool in the days before
>>> a contest, and an excellent archive tool after the contest to audit what
>>> MULTs and Qs were available and missed due to operating skills, flukey
>>> propagation, antenna selection, etc.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Larry N6NC
>>>
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