[SCCC] ARRL 10 K6GEP(@N6WIN) SO Mixed HP

[Dennis Younker NE6I]

I've always used an "adaptive phonetics" strategy.

That is, a station with a longer call such as KD9GNW (especially if he is 
using longer phonetics) will cause me to respond with something like Kilo 
Delta Nine Golf Nancy Whiskey because I can say that much faster than the 
phonetics he said (as in your example) Kilo Delta Nine Golf November 
Whiskey. And chances are, he's probably using Kilowatt instead of Kilo. :) 
One might say gee, November versus Nancy...that's only one extra syllable. 
But for me, I can rattle off Golf Nancy Whiskey faster than Golf November 
Whiskey. As you can see, I would adapt to the call and conditions.

DX stations would get the very same phonetics back that they used, or the 
standard phonetics, never anything fancy. Especially if they have a heavy 
accent or likely do not speak English.

If conditions are marginal and I am trying to confirm his call or mine, I 
might repeat the call more than once using different phonetics each time. 
Sometimes one phonetic is not QRM/QRN friendly and another is. Or some other 
factor makes it difficult to decipher one particular phonetic on the 
receiving end. In my own call for example, I find that other stations find 
it difficult to get "India" in marginal conditions but "Italy" gets through 
easily. Some of you may have heard me say Norway Echo Six India (shorter 
phonetics) and other times November Echo Six Italy. And sometimes a mixture 
of that. Just depends on conditions.

On my end (receiving-wise), one thing I have noticed over the years is that 
if the other station is using one off beat phonetic, chances are, I will 
remember him better later in the contest and realize that he is a dupe. This 
was more important in the paper logging days than it is now. Sometimes they 
can get away with two fancy phonetics. I.E., KH6BZF (Zipper Flipper)  This 
is probably less effective in a DX contest however.

--Dennis NE6I

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timothy Coker" <n6win73 at gmail.com>
To: "Bill Haddon" <haddon.bill at gmail.com>
Cc: "SCCC reflector" <sccc at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [SCCC] ARRL 10 K6GEP(@N6WIN) SO Mixed HP


> Good point on the error rates.
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> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Bill Haddon <haddon.bill at gmail.com> 
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>> Let's say you are called by KD9GNW (no phonetics) and the stn is weak or
>> fading. . .
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>> Could be KB9GNW, KB9VNW, KD9BMW etc.  So respond
>> Kilo Delta Nine Golf November Whiskey and hope the op corrects you if
>> necessary.  Most will.
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>> I don't see any thing wrong with responding to "Kilo Delta 9 Good 
>> Nebraska
>> Whiskey"  with "KD9GNW" unless you want to compliment the op on his
>> creative choice of phonetics. otherwise, if you "get" his creative 
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>> don't waste the time repeating it. And hopefully, in his mind, he's
>> spelling that "Wiskey" not Whisky, which must be only Scottish, not
>> Nebraskan.
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>> Also, judge the care in your response with your past error rates. . if 
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>> at the 1-2% level whatever you're doing is fine.  But if >4-5%, pay more
>> attention to the callsign, especially because there may be a penalty 
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>> loss of the QSO for a busted call vs. a busted QTH or number.  With over
>> 1300 Q's this past weekend [so far 6th nationally in MIXED SO LP based on
>> 3830 reports), exactly *one* station gave me a 5-8.
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>> 73 Bill n6zfo
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>> Talleyrand Winery
>> Kelseyville CA
>> (NCCC)
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>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Dave Hachadorian <k6ll at arrl.net> wrote:
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>> > > Don't repeat the callsigns back phonetically on phone.  Use
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>> > My advice on this is to use exactly the same phonetics he used
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