[SCCC] Cheaters Run Amunk - Assisted vs Non-Assisted

Art - W6KY w6ky at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 6 04:01:36 EST 2012


I think Bill's (N6ZFO) explanation is very good. I didn't
take into account the number of rigs with scopes and in
the case of the K3 the external panadaptor. I do exactly
the same thing with my PROII, especially in a RTTY
contest....Or early evening on 15 and 20 meters. When
I see the pile-up on the scope, I have to rush there and
check it out....
Also, siding with Tim, I now hope it is just a minority who
are using the clusters, but reporting they are not....
Personally, I'm for 3 categories. QRP, Low, High
unlimited...No need to try and make everyone a winner...
73, Art W6KY
 .............................................
BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS 
NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND 
FOR THE SAME REASON!




________________________________
From: Bill Haddon <haddon.bill at gmail.com>
To: Art - W6KY <W6KY at yahoo.com>
Cc: SCCC Reflector <sccc at contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, November 5, 2012 7:03:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Cheaters Run Amunk - Assisted vs Non-Assisted

Art,

 The SF section was moderately rare this year and the pileups were ear-crushing 
at times -- maybe sometimes 20 stations calling at once on 15 and 80m . . a 
thrill for my 200 watts ("B" this year).  When working a U category stn in the 
quieter times there would often be a surge in the next 2 to 5 minutes.  But 
mostly these other were "U" stations, as would be required in an honest 
environment. [if you wish, send me a list of the calls, and I'll examine them in 
my log]

Based on some comments on the NCCC reflector, there's another explanation for 
what you observed: many (most?) of the top stns are SO2R, and often the 2nd 
radio is used to scope big pileups, especially if there's a spectrum display on 
the 2nd radio.  The implication is that these pileups represent rare sections.  
It's a very sensible strategy.  


 In my own case, I do not use any spotting nets, fills, or even super check 
partial anymore.  But I do use a keyer and I wear glasses to improve vision!

I'll look at my log again and report back if there's any evidence of what you 
mention.

73 Bill n6zfo


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Art - W6KY <w6ky at yahoo.com> wrote:


>Observation:
>
>I was super casual in the ARRL SS using the
>'Assisted' category. N1MM actually distinguishes
>between sections you have worked and those you
>need by color code in the bandmap...
>
>I noticed that in less than a minute between a rare
>(OBB) section being posted and the frequency would
>explode. I started writing down the calls. Almost all
>the calls have since posted to 3830 as non-assisted.
>Many of the calls were instantly recognized by me
>as high end contesters.
>
>This happened over and over as rare sections were
>posted. Am I missing something? The ability to 'sense'
>that missing mult on another freq/band?
>
>It was fun to watch. I recorded over 50 calls that have
>since posted non-assisted that were able to find that
>rare section sometimes within seconds...
>
>I honestly don't care. Anything past a straight ket, #2
>pencil and Big Chief notebook paper is assisted. But
>for those of you trying to be honest, you should know
>there are many who aren't....
>
>73, Art  W6KY
>www.w6ky.com
>ps; I worked VE3ZI (ONN) at 23:59:59  Honest!!!
>74 sections on 223 Q's  Chasing Mults
> .............................................
>BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS
>NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND
>FOR THE SAME REASON!
>
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