[SCCC] Cheaters Run Amunk - Assisted vs Non-Assisted

[H Lawrence Serra]

Hi Bill-
 
Very interesting. So let me ask you some questions as a legitimate Unlimited/Assisted op:
 
If a "pure" SO station has a K3 or some other rig with a bandscope, or has an SDR and uses CW Skimmer in the "Blind Waterfall" mode, no one can tell the difference if he uses actual CW Skimmer or telnet cluster with bandmap spots to his contest software, or if he is legitimately just jumping on a mass of stations calling a MULT as seen on his bandscope, right? 
 
So my questions are, aren't these bandscopes and blind waterfalls actually "assistance" to the SO? So how can there actually be a "pure" Single Op class anymore? Shouldn't it be eliminated and allow everyone to use all technology?

73, Larry N6NC
--- On Wed, 11/7/12, Bill Haddon <haddon.bill at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Bill Haddon <haddon.bill at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Cheaters Run Amunk - Assisted vs Non-Assisted
To: "Art - W6KY" <W6KY at yahoo.com>
Cc: "SCCC Reflector" <sccc at contesting.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012, 11:36 PM


W6KY wrote:
>I noticed that in less than a minute between a rare
(OBB) section being posted and the frequency would
explode. I started writing down the calls. Almost all
the calls have since posted to 3830 as non-assisted.

I believe there are actually four categories of stations that appear within
the first couple minutes of the rare section first beginning to call CQ:

CAT  1.   "U" class stations legitimately seeing the post and immediately
joining the pileup.

CAT 2:  non- "U" stations who are inappropriately using the internet -- the
one's Art was worried about.

CAT 3:  SO2 ops with spectrum scopes who see evidence of a new pileup and
quickly QSY there, hoping perhaps to pick up the rare and new Outerslobovia
Section, OSB.

CAT 4:  [This is the one we failed to recognize]   "Random" non-U stations
who are spinning the knob and happen on this new OSB pileup.  We know
contesters/DXrs are attracted to pileups as fruit flies are to a banana.

   --- A further note on CAT 4:  on Saturday afternoon, two bands were very
active, 20m and 15m cw.   Let's say 200 stations  are Cq'ing and another
600 are S&P mode.  Now, some of these S&P stations will tune past the
Outerslobovian pileup and join it by the principle noted above.  I guess
you can view the Sweeps as either a radio contest or a large statistics
experiment.   The statistics  viewpoint suggests that a significant number
of the 600 s&p stations will hear this new pileup within it's first couple
minutes and join it.  Most will be non-"U" stations.

Thus two of the four cases describe non-"U" stations who join the pileup
rapidly after it's creation for legitimate reasons.

My gut feeling is that the CAT 2 stations, the cheaters, are very small in
number.

Another observation about the "U" class:   look through the ARRL
Sweepstakes records


http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest%20Records/2011/2011-SSCW-Records-V2.pdf

Most section record scores for "U" class are slightly below those of "B"
category stations. [in the highly populated SCV section  K6XX ("B") has
211,200 points, while the "U" record, held by W6YX (N7MH, op) is 210,400
points.

73 Bill n6zfo

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Art - W6KY <w6ky at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Observation:
>
> I was super casual in the ARRL SS using the
> 'Assisted' category. N1MM actually distinguishes
> between sections you have worked and those you
> need by color code in the bandmap...
>
> I noticed that in less than a minute between a rare
> (OBB) section being posted and the frequency would
> explode. I started writing down the calls. Almost all
> the calls have since posted to 3830 as non-assisted.
> Many of the calls were instantly recognized by me
> as high end contesters.
>
> This happened over and over as rare sections were
> posted. Am I missing something? The ability to 'sense'
> that missing mult on another freq/band?
>
> It was fun to watch. I recorded over 50 calls that have
> since posted non-assisted that were able to find that
> rare section sometimes within seconds...
>
> I honestly don't care. Anything past a straight ket, #2
> pencil and Big Chief notebook paper is assisted. But
> for those of you trying to be honest, you should know
> there are many who aren't....
>
> 73, Art  W6KY
> www.w6ky.com
> ps; I worked VE3ZI (ONN) at 23:59:59  Honest!!!
> 74 sections on 223 Q's  Chasing Mults
>  .............................................
> BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS
> NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND
> FOR THE SAME REASON!
>
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