[SCCC] Remote Operating (was 2019 ARRL SS Phone SOHP W4EF)
Dana Roode K6NR
dana.roode at gmail.com
Sun Nov 24 19:41:57 EST 2019
Hi Mike,
I moved from MS Remote Desktop to Teamviewer for my remote when I started
running WSJT and it did not display correctly. TV worked great, but I too
ran into the "commercial use" thing and they abruptly shut me down. I had
the back and forth with them and they told me how to re-enable, but I
didn't want to be at their mercy. I moved to the commercial VNC (
realvnc.com) - I bought a server license for something like $60 a year and
it works great (either direct or via the cloud).
I exchanged some email with Larry earlier; I started my remote station 19
years ago with Kachinas and dialups. There were few options then but there
are many now. I agree the approach you outline below is the most
straightforward. I've been using TRX-Manager to control the radio. I
currently manage my K3, KPA1500, 3 rotators, 8 transmit antennas, and 5
receive antennas over VNC using my control PC. Some of the equipment I use
for switching and the like is no longer made so I'll need to scout out
backup options.
I was at Pacificon and attended a session by K6UFO on remote operation. He
provided a good overview of the various approaches and equipment out
there. His slides are here:
http://www.k6ufo.com/attachments/Pacificon_2019.pdf
I'm still working on the QRN out at the desert location, but good news is I
finally got SCE's attention and they are sending someone out to check it
out with me next week. We also traced one source down to neighbors, I left
notes to contact me, and the noise suddenly went away.
Dana
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 9:26 AM Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com> wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> There is a lot to this subject with lots of different ways to approach
> solutions, so perhaps we should talk by phone. I will be back from
> Ontario on Monday 11/25. If you want to ring me up, you can reach me at
> (818) 648-4846.
>
> The quick rundown is that I am using the free version of "TeamViewer"
> software to do "remote desktop". This allows me to run most of the
> control software on the computer at the remote site. On that computer, I
> have Ham Radio Deluxe, N1MM+, and the control programs for the KAT500
> and KPA500. I also have a control program for my Array Solutions
> wattmeter, but I mostly rely on the wattmeter built into the KPA500
> which readouts in near realtime on the desktop of my remote computer
> through the KPA500 control program. There is a little bit of latency in
> the remote desktop so the update of the wattmeter is choppier than what
> you see when you are sitting in front of the computer at the remote site.
>
> With regard to TeamViewer, I just went through a long back and forth
> with the TeamViewer people trying to convince them that I wasn't using
> their program for commercial purposes. The free version is only to be
> used for non-commercial purposes and apparently they have some
> surveillance in place that flags potential commercial use. I got caught
> up in that dragnet and as a results I had restrictions placed on my
> remote access which was very annoying. I think I finally got clear of
> all that, but who knows when that could come back (they are very opaque
> about what the red flags are), so I think I am going to start looking
> for alternatives.
>
> Back when I had a rotary antenna working, I used the Green Heron control
> program to rotate my antenna. Like the other applications I mentioned, I
> run the Green Heron program on the computer at the remote site using
> TeamViewer to access the desktop GUI.
>
> It's also possible to run some of these applications on your client
> computer (i.e. where the operator sits). That can have advantages
> (screen updates happen locally), but other than running Ham Radio Deluxe
> that way for a time, I haven't explored this approach as much.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> 73, Mike W4EF
>
>
> On 11/20/2019 4:07 PM, Larry Shapiro wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> > Sorry you had trouble with your remote setup.
> > I want to remote my home station from work or when I travel.
> > I am afraid of computers,and because of that,I haven't started this
> > project.
> > I know just enough to do what I need to do.
> > Who can I get to help me with this project ?
> > Anyone do this ?
> > I have a K3S and kpa1500 ,and a green Heron control box.
> > I also have an extra k3 that I can use at the work place,or I can just
> > use software.
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Larry k6ro
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > www.LSrarecoins.com
> > 310-710-2869
> > -----Original Message----- From: Michael Tope
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 11:30 AM
> > To: sccc at contesting.com
> > Subject: [SCCC] 2019 ARRL SS Phone SOHP W4EF
> >
> > Start Date : 2019-11-16
> >
> > CallSign Used : NI6W
> > Operator(s) : W4EF
> >
> > Operator Category : SINGLE-OP
> > Assisted Category : NON-ASSISTED
> > Band : ALL
> > Power : HIGH
> > Mode : SSB
> >
> > Name : Michael Tope
> > ARRL Section : LAX
> > Club/Team : Southern California Contest Club
> > Software : N1MM Logger+ 1.0.7704.0
> >
> > Band QSOs Pts Sec Pt/Q
> > 3.5 48 96 18 2.0
> > 7 1 2 0 2.0
> > 14 17 34 14 2.0
> > Total 66 132 32 2.0
> >
> >
> > Score : 4,224
> > Rig : Electraft K3S, KPA500
> >
> > Antennas : 20/40M Parallel Inverted-Vees at 37ft
> > 80M Vertical
> >
> > Soapbox : Not much of an effort. My main goal was to work out
> > some of the kinks in my remote system for SSB operation. I definitely
> > need a foot switch of some sort to mute/un-mute my headset microphone
> > when I am listening, since the activation threshold of the VOX function
> > in TeamViewer is way too unpredictable to safely leave the mic connected
> > when listening. Also, the internet latency between my hotel room in
> > Toronto and my station back in SoCal seemed uncomfortably long. This
> > long latency combined with the extra mouse click needed to mute and
> > un-mute my tx audio and the mouse clicks needed to go from the
> > microphone enable/disable window back to N1MM+ in the TeamViewer remote
> > desktop window, made for way too many instances of awkward pauses and
> > doubling. Definitely lots of room for improvement. Nevertheless, it was
> > still a kick to make some QSOs from the hotel room.
> >
> > 73, Mike W4EF................
> >
> >
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