[SCCC] Remote Control/Audio (was CQWW CW WA7BNM SOSB15 LP)
Michael Tope
W4EF at dellroy.com
Tue Dec 8 19:54:59 EST 2020
Hi Bruce,
I have an older Elecraft K3 (upgraded to a K3S), so my audio connections
from the rig to the computer sound card are analog. I had WSJT up just
long enough to verify I was getting a waterfall (it did seem kind of
slow) and the CW signal I was tuned to showed up on the waterfall as a
vertical line. I didn't try transmitting. So far for analog audio
connections, Windows RDP seems to work fine (at least the "line in"
part). Unfortunately, I don't have any experience yet with USB sound
interfaces and Windows RDP.
73, Mike W4EF....................
On 12/6/2020 5:41 PM, Bruce Horn wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm interested in your comments about not having any problems with WSJT and Windows RDP. When I tried to use Remote Desktop on my LAN to the computer running WSJT-X this weekend, RDP disrupted the USB audio connection between the computer and the rig (IC-7610). Maybe this is the result of using USB audio as the connection between the rig and the computer, instead of a line out on the rig to line in on the computer? I had a similar experience when trying to use RemotePC to access the computer running WSJT.
>
> 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com>
> To: "SCCC Reflector" <sccc at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:58:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Remote Control/Audio (was CQWW CW WA7BNM SOSB15 LP)
>
> Hi Dana,
>
> Yeah, until I got my internet connection fixed, I had a big latency
> problem with REMAUD. It would work with low-latency for a few minutes,
> then there would be a light pop in the audio and the latency would jump
> up to a few seconds which made it totally unusable for contests. I think
> the Netgear router at my remote station was the problem because there
> seemed to be a dramatic improvement after I changed it out. Just to
> leave nothing to chance, I also switched the internet connections on
> both the client computer here at my home in Los Angeles and the server
> side at the remote station from Wireless to the hardwired CAT6 Ethernet
> ports on the respective routers.
>
> I used the setup this weekend in the ARRL 160. As an experiment I
> decided to try Windows RDP instead of TeamViewer. I was pleasantly
> surprised because one of the problems I used to have with RDP and Ham
> Radio Deluxe is gone now. It seem to work just as well as TeamViewer. I
> don't remember having any problems with WSJT and Windows RDP, but it's
> been so long since I used WSJT it may be that I am simply forgetting
> something or that I never used the two together in the first place. I'll
> have to give that a go sometime soon to see if that is a problem.
>
> 73, Mike W4EF........................
>
> On 12/3/2020 10:36 AM, Dana Roode K6NR wrote:
>> Hi Mike - throwing my 2 cents in - I use a phone connection for audio to my
>> remote station in Phelan, but I use REMAUD when that's down. It works OK,
>> except the latency makes it near impossible to use in contests without
>> confusing the heck out of folks I am calling. I suspect that is due to my
>> poor Internet connection (which I use to control everything else). Sounds
>> like your connection is better or you have found a way around the latency
>> issue.
>>
>> Teamviewer worked well for me (RDP had issues with WSJT display, I don't
>> know why). But I gave up with Teamviewer after they hassled me about
>> "commercial use" by abrupting turning off my access. I cleared that up but
>> moved to VNC, which works very well.
>>
>> I have never tried to do paddle CW over the network, I use use the keyboard
>> interfaces. The remote phone connection provides real time feedback, which
>> is nice. Congrats on working out remote paddle CW.
>>
>> dana
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 10:38 PM Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> I am having good luck with DF3CB's Remaud program. I had a little
>>> trouble at first, but it appears that was related to a faulty router on
>>> the server side. At present it is working great. I am using TeamViewer
>>> for remote desktop (I can also use Windows RDP if the folks at
>>> TeamViewer start jerking me around again regarding alleged commercial use).
>>>
>>> I now have two Winkeyers at the station. One of the Winkeyers (WK#1) is
>>> interfaced with N1MM+. This one takes care of all the computer generated
>>> CW coming from N1MM. The 2nd Winkeyer (WK#2) is interfaced with the
>>> Winkey Remote utility on a separate COM port. This allows me to send CW
>>> by hand if I need to send something that isn't already loaded into a
>>> N1MM+ function key. For a while I tried using the keyboard for this with
>>> the "Ctrl-K" function in N1MM+, but I found it awkward and I often ended
>>> up butchering whatever I was intending to send.
>>>
>>> I have a 3rd Winkeyer (WK#3) at my client side operating desk that is
>>> synchronized with WK#2 via Winkey Remote. My bencher paddles are plugged
>>> into WK#3. Since I can't send worth a darn using the delayed sidetone
>>> coming back from the remote site (the delay totally throws me for a
>>> loop), I needed a way to get a local sidetone into my headphones when I
>>> am sending. To do this I added an extra RCA connector to WK#3 chassis
>>> and tied it in parallel with the output of the Winkeyer's internal
>>> sidetone generator circuit. To route this sidetone into my headphones, I
>>> built a little external circuit that uses the PTT output of WK#3 to
>>> energize a reed relay that makes the connection to my headphones (and
>>> cuts off the remote audio) when I am sending with the paddles. This did
>>> the trick.
>>>
>>> It's starting to feel like I am actually at the station instead of 50
>>> miles away.
>>>
>>> 73, Mike W4EF..................
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/29/2020 10:09 PM, Bruce Horn wrote:
>>>> CQ Worldwide DX Contest, CW - 2020
>>>>
>>>> Call: WA7BNM
>>>> Operator(s): WA7BNM
>>>> Station: WA7BNM
>>>>
>>>> Class: SOSB15 LP
>>>> QTH: S.Calif
>>>> Operating Time (hrs): 15.5
>>>> Remote Operation
>>>>
>>>> Summary:
>>>> Band QSOs Zones Countries
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 160:
>>>> 80:
>>>> 40:
>>>> 20:
>>>> 15: 240 22 45
>>>> 10:
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Total: 240 22 45 Total Score = 44,555
>>>>
>>>> Club: Southern California Contest Club
>>>>
>>>> Comments:
>>>>
>>>> I was able to get CW integration of N1MM+ and the Flex 6600M/Maestro
>>> working
>>>> before the contest, so I was able to implement my plan to operate the
>>> second day
>>>> of the contest by remoting back to my home station after doing the first
>>> half in
>>>> the home shack. Next challenge was hearing the CW sidetone when operating
>>>> remotely. Based on VE6WZ's experience, I connected the audio line out
>>> of the
>>>> 6600M to the PC I used to control the rotator, used Audacity to make the
>>> audio
>>>> on line in audible on the PC and then used remotepc to access the audio
>>>> remotely. Unfortunately, this was not a robust solution, so I spent most
>>> of the
>>>> contest not hearing the CW I was sending.
>>>>
>>>> Nice to have some fun on 15m. Primarily S&P, but was surprised to be
>>> able to
>>>> do some CQing with 100 watts.
>>>>
>>>> Rig: Flexradio 6600M/Maestro - 100 watts
>>>> Antennas: SteppIR DB-36 at 105 ft and Optibeam OB16-3 at 72 ft
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
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