[SCCC] Remote Control/Audio (was CQWW CW WA7BNM SOSB15 LP)
Dan Violette
danki6x at socal.rr.com
Sun Dec 6 21:04:07 EST 2020
Just an FYI and surely I have not tested much nor used a lot. AnyDesk
worked well what little I tried of it (mainly with WSJT used so far). Tried
it when I saw the TeamViewer concerns about commercial/home use.
Dan KI6X
-----Original Message-----
From: SCCC <sccc-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Bruce Horn
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 5:41 PM
To: Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com>
Cc: SCCC Reflector <sccc at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Remote Control/Audio (was CQWW CW WA7BNM SOSB15 LP)
Hi Mike,
I'm interested in your comments about not having any problems with WSJT and
Windows RDP. When I tried to use Remote Desktop on my LAN to the computer
running WSJT-X this weekend, RDP disrupted the USB audio connection between
the computer and the rig (IC-7610). Maybe this is the result of using USB
audio as the connection between the rig and the computer, instead of a line
out on the rig to line in on the computer? I had a similar experience when
trying to use RemotePC to access the computer running WSJT.
73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com>
To: "SCCC Reflector" <sccc at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:58:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Remote Control/Audio (was CQWW CW WA7BNM SOSB15 LP)
Hi Dana,
Yeah, until I got my internet connection fixed, I had a big latency problem
with REMAUD. It would work with low-latency for a few minutes, then there
would be a light pop in the audio and the latency would jump up to a few
seconds which made it totally unusable for contests. I think the Netgear
router at my remote station was the problem because there seemed to be a
dramatic improvement after I changed it out. Just to leave nothing to
chance, I also switched the internet connections on both the client computer
here at my home in Los Angeles and the server side at the remote station
from Wireless to the hardwired CAT6 Ethernet ports on the respective
routers.
I used the setup this weekend in the ARRL 160. As an experiment I decided to
try Windows RDP instead of TeamViewer. I was pleasantly surprised because
one of the problems I used to have with RDP and Ham Radio Deluxe is gone
now. It seem to work just as well as TeamViewer. I don't remember having any
problems with WSJT and Windows RDP, but it's been so long since I used WSJT
it may be that I am simply forgetting something or that I never used the two
together in the first place. I'll have to give that a go sometime soon to
see if that is a problem.
73, Mike W4EF........................
On 12/3/2020 10:36 AM, Dana Roode K6NR wrote:
> Hi Mike - throwing my 2 cents in - I use a phone connection for audio
> to my remote station in Phelan, but I use REMAUD when that's down. It
> works OK, except the latency makes it near impossible to use in
> contests without confusing the heck out of folks I am calling. I
> suspect that is due to my poor Internet connection (which I use to
> control everything else). Sounds like your connection is better or
> you have found a way around the latency issue.
>
> Teamviewer worked well for me (RDP had issues with WSJT display, I
> don't know why). But I gave up with Teamviewer after they hassled me
> about "commercial use" by abrupting turning off my access. I cleared
> that up but moved to VNC, which works very well.
>
> I have never tried to do paddle CW over the network, I use use the
> keyboard interfaces. The remote phone connection provides real time
> feedback, which is nice. Congrats on working out remote paddle CW.
>
> dana
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 10:38 PM Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com> wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> I am having good luck with DF3CB's Remaud program. I had a little
>> trouble at first, but it appears that was related to a faulty router
>> on the server side. At present it is working great. I am using
>> TeamViewer for remote desktop (I can also use Windows RDP if the
>> folks at TeamViewer start jerking me around again regarding alleged
commercial use).
>>
>> I now have two Winkeyers at the station. One of the Winkeyers (WK#1)
>> is interfaced with N1MM+. This one takes care of all the computer
>> generated CW coming from N1MM. The 2nd Winkeyer (WK#2) is interfaced
>> with the Winkey Remote utility on a separate COM port. This allows me
>> to send CW by hand if I need to send something that isn't already
>> loaded into a
>> N1MM+ function key. For a while I tried using the keyboard for this
>> N1MM+ with
>> the "Ctrl-K" function in N1MM+, but I found it awkward and I often
>> ended up butchering whatever I was intending to send.
>>
>> I have a 3rd Winkeyer (WK#3) at my client side operating desk that is
>> synchronized with WK#2 via Winkey Remote. My bencher paddles are
>> plugged into WK#3. Since I can't send worth a darn using the delayed
>> sidetone coming back from the remote site (the delay totally throws
>> me for a loop), I needed a way to get a local sidetone into my
>> headphones when I am sending. To do this I added an extra RCA
>> connector to WK#3 chassis and tied it in parallel with the output of
>> the Winkeyer's internal sidetone generator circuit. To route this
>> sidetone into my headphones, I built a little external circuit that
>> uses the PTT output of WK#3 to energize a reed relay that makes the
>> connection to my headphones (and cuts off the remote audio) when I am
>> sending with the paddles. This did the trick.
>>
>> It's starting to feel like I am actually at the station instead of 50
>> miles away.
>>
>> 73, Mike W4EF..................
>>
>>
>> On 11/29/2020 10:09 PM, Bruce Horn wrote:
>>> CQ Worldwide DX Contest, CW - 2020
>>>
>>> Call: WA7BNM
>>> Operator(s): WA7BNM
>>> Station: WA7BNM
>>>
>>> Class: SOSB15 LP
>>> QTH: S.Calif
>>> Operating Time (hrs): 15.5
>>> Remote Operation
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>> Band QSOs Zones Countries
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 160:
>>> 80:
>>> 40:
>>> 20:
>>> 15: 240 22 45
>>> 10:
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Total: 240 22 45 Total Score = 44,555
>>>
>>> Club: Southern California Contest Club
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>>
>>> I was able to get CW integration of N1MM+ and the Flex 6600M/Maestro
>> working
>>> before the contest, so I was able to implement my plan to operate
>>> the
>> second day
>>> of the contest by remoting back to my home station after doing the
>>> first
>> half in
>>> the home shack. Next challenge was hearing the CW sidetone when
>>> operating remotely. Based on VE6WZ's experience, I connected the
>>> audio line out
>> of the
>>> 6600M to the PC I used to control the rotator, used Audacity to make
>>> the
>> audio
>>> on line in audible on the PC and then used remotepc to access the
>>> audio remotely. Unfortunately, this was not a robust solution, so I
>>> spent most
>> of the
>>> contest not hearing the CW I was sending.
>>>
>>> Nice to have some fun on 15m. Primarily S&P, but was surprised to be
>> able to
>>> do some CQing with 100 watts.
>>>
>>> Rig: Flexradio 6600M/Maestro - 100 watts
>>> Antennas: SteppIR DB-36 at 105 ft and Optibeam OB16-3 at 72 ft
>>>
>>> 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
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