[SCCC] Remote Control/Audio (was CQWW CW WA7BNM SOSB15 LP)
Bruce Horn
bhorn at hornucopia.com
Sun Dec 6 20:41:12 EST 2020
Hi Mike,
I'm interested in your comments about not having any problems with WSJT and Windows RDP. When I tried to use Remote Desktop on my LAN to the computer running WSJT-X this weekend, RDP disrupted the USB audio connection between the computer and the rig (IC-7610). Maybe this is the result of using USB audio as the connection between the rig and the computer, instead of a line out on the rig to line in on the computer? I had a similar experience when trying to use RemotePC to access the computer running WSJT.
73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com>
To: "SCCC Reflector" <sccc at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:58:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Remote Control/Audio (was CQWW CW WA7BNM SOSB15 LP)
Hi Dana,
Yeah, until I got my internet connection fixed, I had a big latency
problem with REMAUD. It would work with low-latency for a few minutes,
then there would be a light pop in the audio and the latency would jump
up to a few seconds which made it totally unusable for contests. I think
the Netgear router at my remote station was the problem because there
seemed to be a dramatic improvement after I changed it out. Just to
leave nothing to chance, I also switched the internet connections on
both the client computer here at my home in Los Angeles and the server
side at the remote station from Wireless to the hardwired CAT6 Ethernet
ports on the respective routers.
I used the setup this weekend in the ARRL 160. As an experiment I
decided to try Windows RDP instead of TeamViewer. I was pleasantly
surprised because one of the problems I used to have with RDP and Ham
Radio Deluxe is gone now. It seem to work just as well as TeamViewer. I
don't remember having any problems with WSJT and Windows RDP, but it's
been so long since I used WSJT it may be that I am simply forgetting
something or that I never used the two together in the first place. I'll
have to give that a go sometime soon to see if that is a problem.
73, Mike W4EF........................
On 12/3/2020 10:36 AM, Dana Roode K6NR wrote:
> Hi Mike - throwing my 2 cents in - I use a phone connection for audio to my
> remote station in Phelan, but I use REMAUD when that's down. It works OK,
> except the latency makes it near impossible to use in contests without
> confusing the heck out of folks I am calling. I suspect that is due to my
> poor Internet connection (which I use to control everything else). Sounds
> like your connection is better or you have found a way around the latency
> issue.
>
> Teamviewer worked well for me (RDP had issues with WSJT display, I don't
> know why). But I gave up with Teamviewer after they hassled me about
> "commercial use" by abrupting turning off my access. I cleared that up but
> moved to VNC, which works very well.
>
> I have never tried to do paddle CW over the network, I use use the keyboard
> interfaces. The remote phone connection provides real time feedback, which
> is nice. Congrats on working out remote paddle CW.
>
> dana
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 10:38 PM Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com> wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> I am having good luck with DF3CB's Remaud program. I had a little
>> trouble at first, but it appears that was related to a faulty router on
>> the server side. At present it is working great. I am using TeamViewer
>> for remote desktop (I can also use Windows RDP if the folks at
>> TeamViewer start jerking me around again regarding alleged commercial use).
>>
>> I now have two Winkeyers at the station. One of the Winkeyers (WK#1) is
>> interfaced with N1MM+. This one takes care of all the computer generated
>> CW coming from N1MM. The 2nd Winkeyer (WK#2) is interfaced with the
>> Winkey Remote utility on a separate COM port. This allows me to send CW
>> by hand if I need to send something that isn't already loaded into a
>> N1MM+ function key. For a while I tried using the keyboard for this with
>> the "Ctrl-K" function in N1MM+, but I found it awkward and I often ended
>> up butchering whatever I was intending to send.
>>
>> I have a 3rd Winkeyer (WK#3) at my client side operating desk that is
>> synchronized with WK#2 via Winkey Remote. My bencher paddles are plugged
>> into WK#3. Since I can't send worth a darn using the delayed sidetone
>> coming back from the remote site (the delay totally throws me for a
>> loop), I needed a way to get a local sidetone into my headphones when I
>> am sending. To do this I added an extra RCA connector to WK#3 chassis
>> and tied it in parallel with the output of the Winkeyer's internal
>> sidetone generator circuit. To route this sidetone into my headphones, I
>> built a little external circuit that uses the PTT output of WK#3 to
>> energize a reed relay that makes the connection to my headphones (and
>> cuts off the remote audio) when I am sending with the paddles. This did
>> the trick.
>>
>> It's starting to feel like I am actually at the station instead of 50
>> miles away.
>>
>> 73, Mike W4EF..................
>>
>>
>> On 11/29/2020 10:09 PM, Bruce Horn wrote:
>>> CQ Worldwide DX Contest, CW - 2020
>>>
>>> Call: WA7BNM
>>> Operator(s): WA7BNM
>>> Station: WA7BNM
>>>
>>> Class: SOSB15 LP
>>> QTH: S.Calif
>>> Operating Time (hrs): 15.5
>>> Remote Operation
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>> Band QSOs Zones Countries
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 160:
>>> 80:
>>> 40:
>>> 20:
>>> 15: 240 22 45
>>> 10:
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Total: 240 22 45 Total Score = 44,555
>>>
>>> Club: Southern California Contest Club
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>>
>>> I was able to get CW integration of N1MM+ and the Flex 6600M/Maestro
>> working
>>> before the contest, so I was able to implement my plan to operate the
>> second day
>>> of the contest by remoting back to my home station after doing the first
>> half in
>>> the home shack. Next challenge was hearing the CW sidetone when operating
>>> remotely. Based on VE6WZ's experience, I connected the audio line out
>> of the
>>> 6600M to the PC I used to control the rotator, used Audacity to make the
>> audio
>>> on line in audible on the PC and then used remotepc to access the audio
>>> remotely. Unfortunately, this was not a robust solution, so I spent most
>> of the
>>> contest not hearing the CW I was sending.
>>>
>>> Nice to have some fun on 15m. Primarily S&P, but was surprised to be
>> able to
>>> do some CQing with 100 watts.
>>>
>>> Rig: Flexradio 6600M/Maestro - 100 watts
>>> Antennas: SteppIR DB-36 at 105 ft and Optibeam OB16-3 at 72 ft
>>>
>>> 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
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