[SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals

Steve Harrison k0xp at k0xp.com
Mon Jun 24 00:11:11 EDT 2024


I'm another agreeing son-of-a-gun.

Steve, K0XP


On 6/23/2024 8:18 PM, Jim Price wrote:
> I totally agree with Dino.  There's no reason that I, or anyone else,
> sitting comfortably in their air-conditioned shack should be allowed
> to get QSO / ponts credit for working another similarly comfortable
> "Field Day participant."  Delta to people in the field only!
>
> 73
> Jim K6ZH
>
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>     On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 7:36 PM, Dino Darling
>     <dino at kx6d.com> wrote:
>     Ryan, the problem isn't the Delta stations. They have been around
>     for decades and a good source of points for the club stations.
>
>     The issue is, starting in 2020 they changed the rule that now
>     allows delta stations to contact delta stations for points. So the
>     guys stopped going to the field and all the delta stations with
>     superior antennas are talking to eachother. The guys in the field
>     with wire antennas couldn't get heard. There is a reason that rule
>     existed and after Covid they should of put it back to the 2019
>     rules where Deltas could count any stations for points, except for
>     other deltas. Its very simple even a Division Director could
>     figure it out. Yet that rule exists still and there is no
>     incentive to put in the effort to go to the field. If they want
>     Home Day they should start their own contest.
>
>     2020 was a disaster for Field Stations. So much so they had to
>     change the rules again for 2021, and again for 2022!!! I wouldn't
>     have believed that people at HQ could be this stupid but they have
>     proven me wrong.
>
>     Just take away the points of D to D contacts and this problem goes
>     away in an instance. Even the Class D'Souza with amplifiers wasn't
>     a problem in 2019. We never saw 7D or even 3D before 2020. Why
>     now? Because its easy to sit at home and ruin it for the guys in
>     the field. One rule change. One SIMPLE rule change back to the way
>     it was for DECADES...for good reason.
>
>
>
>     Dino - KX6D
>     ________________________________
>
>     From: Ryan Huggins <KI6BTY at pm.me>
>     Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:06:59 AM
>     To: neiljessen at hotmail.com <neiljessen at hotmail.com>; Dino Darling
>     <dino at kx6d.com>; k0xp at k0xp.com <k0xp at k0xp.com>
>     Cc: Southern California Contesting Club <sccc at contesting.com>
>     Subject: Re: RE: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
>
>
>     Out of curiosity, since the clasification isn't mentioned until
>     after contact has been made, how would you know someone is a D so
>     as not to work them?  Seems like that would be a big waste of time
>     if you get into a qso just to have to leave midway through.
>
>     Interestingly, I probably have more D stations in my log than A
>     stations and barely and Bs.  No Cs or Es
>
>     I'm over 200 QSOs and closing in on 900 points with what's left of
>     the people out there.  I suspect that most of the A stations are
>     done for the day now.  I know mine is, due to the 24 hour rule if
>     you setup early.
>
>     -73
>     Ryan, KI6BTY
>
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>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     On 6/23/24 10:57 AM, Neil Jessen wrote:
>     I worked several "Delta" stations with multiple radios. 7D, 8D,
>     4D.  I am ok with Delta stations (gives old-timers, people with
>     limited mobility a chance to participate, etc.) but the emphasis
>     for FD is Field...not working from home.  Delta to Delta shouldn't
>     count. It shouldn't be made attractive to stay inside and work
>     from home.  That's my $0.02.
>
>     73,
>     Neil - N6VHF
>
>
>
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Dino Darling <dino at kx6d.com>
>     Date: 6/22/24 7:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
>     To: Ryan Huggins <KI6BTY at pm.me>, Steve Harrison <k0xp at k0xp.com>
>     Cc: sccc at contesting.com
>     Subject: Re: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
>
>     So much with keeping the FIELD in Field Day! The ARRL has been
>     screwing the pooch these past few years but really went too far
>     when they allowed Class D stations to count other Class D stations
>     for points. There was a reason that rule existed for DECADES. The
>     newbies love it and the event is now called Home Day.
>
>
>     Dino - KX6D
>     ________________________________
>     From: SCCC <sccc-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of Ryan Huggins
>     via SCCC <sccc at contesting.com>
>     Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 10:56:00 AM
>     To: Steve Harrison <k0xp at k0xp.com>
>     Cc: sccc at contesting.com <sccc at contesting.com>
>     Subject: Re: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
>
>     No, not a typo.  I was 4D last year and there were a fair amount
>     of 5D and 6Ds last year as well as one guy who was a 9D!
>
>     It's the number of transmitters that are sending at once. Four of
>     my stations are FT8, that's a no brainer.  Click "Enable TX" and
>     you're good to go.  The LoRA is a similar beast.  Press send on
>     the phone, it bluetooths to the device and TXs the message.  #6
>     and #7 will be me pressing the pickle on two HTs at once and
>     calling CQ on 2m and the 220 calling frequency.  I figure I'll
>     work the HTs like that for most of the day and see what happens. 
>     I'll be between the three main HT bands.  I don't expect to get
>     many points from VHF/UHF or 6m for that matter, but we'll see.
>
>
>     -73
>     Ryan, KI6BTY
>
>
>     On Saturday, June 22nd, 2024 at 10:16 AM, Steve Harrison
>     <k0xp at k0xp.com> wrote:
>
>     > On 6/22/2024 10:13 AM, Ryan Huggins via SCCC wrote:
>     >
>     > > The Conejo Valley ARC will be operating 20A today on all bands
>     and modes.
>     > >
>     > > I'm operating 7D from home,
>     >
>     >
>     > Izzat a typo, 7D???
>     >
>     > Stve, K0XP
>     >
>     >
>     >
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