[SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
Phil Minch
ki4mug at gmail.com
Mon Jun 24 00:28:18 EDT 2024
When I worked Field Day with LA ARES NW, they called me the iron man
because I was the only one to work all 24 hours. I can't do that anymore
so I'm happy to sit in the back room, nap when I want to and hand out
contacts to others. We have been told over and over that Field Day is *not*
a contest, so quit obsessing over scores!
Interestingly enough, the only C station I heard was a German ham.
On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 9:11 PM Steve Harrison <k0xp at k0xp.com> wrote:
> I'm another agreeing son-of-a-gun.
>
> Steve, K0XP
>
>
> On 6/23/2024 8:18 PM, Jim Price wrote:
> > I totally agree with Dino. There's no reason that I, or anyone else,
> > sitting comfortably in their air-conditioned shack should be allowed
> > to get QSO / ponts credit for working another similarly comfortable
> > "Field Day participant." Delta to people in the field only!
> >
> > 73
> > Jim K6ZH
> >
> >
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> >
> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 7:36 PM, Dino Darling
> > <dino at kx6d.com> wrote:
> > Ryan, the problem isn't the Delta stations. They have been around
> > for decades and a good source of points for the club stations.
> >
> > The issue is, starting in 2020 they changed the rule that now
> > allows delta stations to contact delta stations for points. So the
> > guys stopped going to the field and all the delta stations with
> > superior antennas are talking to eachother. The guys in the field
> > with wire antennas couldn't get heard. There is a reason that rule
> > existed and after Covid they should of put it back to the 2019
> > rules where Deltas could count any stations for points, except for
> > other deltas. Its very simple even a Division Director could
> > figure it out. Yet that rule exists still and there is no
> > incentive to put in the effort to go to the field. If they want
> > Home Day they should start their own contest.
> >
> > 2020 was a disaster for Field Stations. So much so they had to
> > change the rules again for 2021, and again for 2022!!! I wouldn't
> > have believed that people at HQ could be this stupid but they have
> > proven me wrong.
> >
> > Just take away the points of D to D contacts and this problem goes
> > away in an instance. Even the Class D'Souza with amplifiers wasn't
> > a problem in 2019. We never saw 7D or even 3D before 2020. Why
> > now? Because its easy to sit at home and ruin it for the guys in
> > the field. One rule change. One SIMPLE rule change back to the way
> > it was for DECADES...for good reason.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dino - KX6D
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Ryan Huggins <KI6BTY at pm.me>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:06:59 AM
> > To: neiljessen at hotmail.com <neiljessen at hotmail.com>; Dino Darling
> > <dino at kx6d.com>; k0xp at k0xp.com <k0xp at k0xp.com>
> > Cc: Southern California Contesting Club <sccc at contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: RE: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
> >
> >
> > Out of curiosity, since the clasification isn't mentioned until
> > after contact has been made, how would you know someone is a D so
> > as not to work them? Seems like that would be a big waste of time
> > if you get into a qso just to have to leave midway through.
> >
> > Interestingly, I probably have more D stations in my log than A
> > stations and barely and Bs. No Cs or Es
> >
> > I'm over 200 QSOs and closing in on 900 points with what's left of
> > the people out there. I suspect that most of the A stations are
> > done for the day now. I know mine is, due to the 24 hour rule if
> > you setup early.
> >
> > -73
> > Ryan, KI6BTY
> >
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> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > On 6/23/24 10:57 AM, Neil Jessen wrote:
> > I worked several "Delta" stations with multiple radios. 7D, 8D,
> > 4D. I am ok with Delta stations (gives old-timers, people with
> > limited mobility a chance to participate, etc.) but the emphasis
> > for FD is Field...not working from home. Delta to Delta shouldn't
> > count. It shouldn't be made attractive to stay inside and work
> > from home. That's my $0.02.
> >
> > 73,
> > Neil - N6VHF
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Dino Darling <dino at kx6d.com>
> > Date: 6/22/24 7:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
> > To: Ryan Huggins <KI6BTY at pm.me>, Steve Harrison <k0xp at k0xp.com>
> > Cc: sccc at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
> >
> > So much with keeping the FIELD in Field Day! The ARRL has been
> > screwing the pooch these past few years but really went too far
> > when they allowed Class D stations to count other Class D stations
> > for points. There was a reason that rule existed for DECADES. The
> > newbies love it and the event is now called Home Day.
> >
> >
> > Dino - KX6D
> > ________________________________
> > From: SCCC <sccc-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of Ryan Huggins
> > via SCCC <sccc at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 10:56:00 AM
> > To: Steve Harrison <k0xp at k0xp.com>
> > Cc: sccc at contesting.com <sccc at contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
> >
> > No, not a typo. I was 4D last year and there were a fair amount
> > of 5D and 6Ds last year as well as one guy who was a 9D!
> >
> > It's the number of transmitters that are sending at once. Four of
> > my stations are FT8, that's a no brainer. Click "Enable TX" and
> > you're good to go. The LoRA is a similar beast. Press send on
> > the phone, it bluetooths to the device and TXs the message. #6
> > and #7 will be me pressing the pickle on two HTs at once and
> > calling CQ on 2m and the 220 calling frequency. I figure I'll
> > work the HTs like that for most of the day and see what happens.
> > I'll be between the three main HT bands. I don't expect to get
> > many points from VHF/UHF or 6m for that matter, but we'll see.
> >
> >
> > -73
> > Ryan, KI6BTY
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, June 22nd, 2024 at 10:16 AM, Steve Harrison
> > <k0xp at k0xp.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/22/2024 10:13 AM, Ryan Huggins via SCCC wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Conejo Valley ARC will be operating 20A today on all bands
> > and modes.
> > > >
> > > > I'm operating 7D from home,
> > >
> > >
> > > Izzat a typo, 7D???
> > >
> > > Stve, K0XP
> > >
> > >
> > >
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