[SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals

Paul Kube K6PO at outlook.com
Mon Jun 24 00:46:22 EDT 2024 

I don't mind folks working Field Day from home and getting points for working Class D stations. They can even be basking in cold A/C, with the beer fridge close at hand.

As long as they are running everything off a generator or batteries. Class E.

73, Paul K6PO
________________________________
From: SCCC <sccc-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of Phil Minch <ki4mug at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 9:28 PM
Cc: Southern California Contesting Club <sccc at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals

When I worked Field Day with LA ARES NW, they called me the iron man
because I was the only one to work all 24 hours.  I can't do that anymore
so I'm happy to sit in the back room, nap when I want to and hand out
contacts to others. We have been told over and over that Field Day is *not*
a contest, so quit obsessing over scores!

Interestingly enough, the only C station I heard was a German ham.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 9:11 PM Steve Harrison <k0xp at k0xp.com> wrote:

> I'm another agreeing son-of-a-gun.
>
> Steve, K0XP
>
>
> On 6/23/2024 8:18 PM, Jim Price wrote:
> > I totally agree with Dino.  There's no reason that I, or anyone else,
> > sitting comfortably in their air-conditioned shack should be allowed
> > to get QSO / ponts credit for working another similarly comfortable
> > "Field Day participant."  Delta to people in the field only!
> >
> > 73
> > Jim K6ZH
> >
> >
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> >
> >     On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 7:36 PM, Dino Darling
> >     <dino at kx6d.com> wrote:
> >     Ryan, the problem isn't the Delta stations. They have been around
> >     for decades and a good source of points for the club stations.
> >
> >     The issue is, starting in 2020 they changed the rule that now
> >     allows delta stations to contact delta stations for points. So the
> >     guys stopped going to the field and all the delta stations with
> >     superior antennas are talking to eachother. The guys in the field
> >     with wire antennas couldn't get heard. There is a reason that rule
> >     existed and after Covid they should of put it back to the 2019
> >     rules where Deltas could count any stations for points, except for
> >     other deltas. Its very simple even a Division Director could
> >     figure it out. Yet that rule exists still and there is no
> >     incentive to put in the effort to go to the field. If they want
> >     Home Day they should start their own contest.
> >
> >     2020 was a disaster for Field Stations. So much so they had to
> >     change the rules again for 2021, and again for 2022!!! I wouldn't
> >     have believed that people at HQ could be this stupid but they have
> >     proven me wrong.
> >
> >     Just take away the points of D to D contacts and this problem goes
> >     away in an instance. Even the Class D'Souza with amplifiers wasn't
> >     a problem in 2019. We never saw 7D or even 3D before 2020. Why
> >     now? Because its easy to sit at home and ruin it for the guys in
> >     the field. One rule change. One SIMPLE rule change back to the way
> >     it was for DECADES...for good reason.
> >
> >
> >
> >     Dino - KX6D
> >     ________________________________
> >
> >     From: Ryan Huggins <KI6BTY at pm.me>
> >     Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:06:59 AM
> >     To: neiljessen at hotmail.com <neiljessen at hotmail.com>; Dino Darling
> >     <dino at kx6d.com>; k0xp at k0xp.com <k0xp at k0xp.com>
> >     Cc: Southern California Contesting Club <sccc at contesting.com>
> >     Subject: Re: RE: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
> >
> >
> >     Out of curiosity, since the clasification isn't mentioned until
> >     after contact has been made, how would you know someone is a D so
> >     as not to work them?  Seems like that would be a big waste of time
> >     if you get into a qso just to have to leave midway through.
> >
> >     Interestingly, I probably have more D stations in my log than A
> >     stations and barely and Bs.  No Cs or Es
> >
> >     I'm over 200 QSOs and closing in on 900 points with what's left of
> >     the people out there.  I suspect that most of the A stations are
> >     done for the day now.  I know mine is, due to the 24 hour rule if
> >     you setup early.
> >
> >     -73
> >     Ryan, KI6BTY
> >
> >     Sent from Proton Mail Android
> >
> >
> >     -------- Original Message --------
> >     On 6/23/24 10:57 AM, Neil Jessen wrote:
> >     I worked several "Delta" stations with multiple radios. 7D, 8D,
> >     4D.  I am ok with Delta stations (gives old-timers, people with
> >     limited mobility a chance to participate, etc.) but the emphasis
> >     for FD is Field...not working from home.  Delta to Delta shouldn't
> >     count. It shouldn't be made attractive to stay inside and work
> >     from home.  That's my $0.02.
> >
> >     73,
> >     Neil - N6VHF
> >
> >
> >
> >     -------- Original message --------
> >     From: Dino Darling <dino at kx6d.com>
> >     Date: 6/22/24 7:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
> >     To: Ryan Huggins <KI6BTY at pm.me>, Steve Harrison <k0xp at k0xp.com>
> >     Cc: sccc at contesting.com
> >     Subject: Re: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
> >
> >     So much with keeping the FIELD in Field Day! The ARRL has been
> >     screwing the pooch these past few years but really went too far
> >     when they allowed Class D stations to count other Class D stations
> >     for points. There was a reason that rule existed for DECADES. The
> >     newbies love it and the event is now called Home Day.
> >
> >
> >     Dino - KX6D
> >     ________________________________
> >     From: SCCC <sccc-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of Ryan Huggins
> >     via SCCC <sccc at contesting.com>
> >     Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 10:56:00 AM
> >     To: Steve Harrison <k0xp at k0xp.com>
> >     Cc: sccc at contesting.com <sccc at contesting.com>
> >     Subject: Re: [SCCC] Field Day - Please help out the locals
> >
> >     No, not a typo.  I was 4D last year and there were a fair amount
> >     of 5D and 6Ds last year as well as one guy who was a 9D!
> >
> >     It's the number of transmitters that are sending at once. Four of
> >     my stations are FT8, that's a no brainer.  Click "Enable TX" and
> >     you're good to go.  The LoRA is a similar beast.  Press send on
> >     the phone, it bluetooths to the device and TXs the message.  #6
> >     and #7 will be me pressing the pickle on two HTs at once and
> >     calling CQ on 2m and the 220 calling frequency.  I figure I'll
> >     work the HTs like that for most of the day and see what happens.
> >     I'll be between the three main HT bands.  I don't expect to get
> >     many points from VHF/UHF or 6m for that matter, but we'll see.
> >
> >
> >     -73
> >     Ryan, KI6BTY
> >
> >
> >     On Saturday, June 22nd, 2024 at 10:16 AM, Steve Harrison
> >     <k0xp at k0xp.com> wrote:
> >
> >     > On 6/22/2024 10:13 AM, Ryan Huggins via SCCC wrote:
> >     >
> >     > > The Conejo Valley ARC will be operating 20A today on all bands
> >     and modes.
> >     > >
> >     > > I'm operating 7D from home,
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Izzat a typo, 7D???
> >     >
> >     > Stve, K0XP
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
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