I echo Bruce's AA4Z's sentiments. July/August is not fun from a propagation, weather or participation standpoint. Surely there must be a way we can wiggle our way into a late winter, spring time slot that wouldn't detract from other tests. 73 Dick K2UFT -- SECC on the Web: http://secc.contesting.com/ Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com