[SEDXC] 3B7C 160

[John Harden, D.M.D.]

Mike,


Great description of the situation!!! Without low-noise receiving antennas
it is impossible to hear much of the rare DX on 160. No doubt many people
call when they can't hear them. And, too, with compromise transmitting
antennas it further complicates their problem of getting through.

The best receive antenna I have had was the 160/80 "EWE" with a K2ZJ
preamplifier at the feedpoint. I do not have room for 160 beverages.

I can hear fair on the two 1/2 wave verticals on 80 CW. However, things went
to a new level with the M2 80/75 rotateable dipole at 100 feet. I use it for
XMIT & Receive on 80 CW and can hear things I NEVER could hear before. 

73,

John, W4NU




-----Original Message-----
From: sedxc-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:sedxc-bounces at contesting.com] On
Behalf Of k4pi
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:52 AM
To: SEDXC
Subject: [SEDXC] 3B7C 160

I read the article from K3NA on their 160 operations with great interest. 
He confirms one thing I always thought.... " In many respects it did not 
matter that some people were calling us non-stop; we couldn't hear these 
stations"...  I have been on the other end of pileups on 160 and normally 
you only hear 1 or 2 people calling although on this end it might be a 
constant roar or as the people spotting on packet report  "a lidfest".  Most

sound like they are calling constantly due to the quick fades by DX stations

that he mentions.  You call, you listen and don't hear anything so you call 
again but chances are he might be being heard at another location returning 
to someone.  But the chances are rare that you are bothering him. Sometimes 
these fades are 1 to 10 minutes and the question is are you not hearing him 
because he faded down or is he still tuning around trying to find someone to

answer?    I see a lot of critics of 160 M operating when they are not fully

understanding all the mechanics.  I agree this does not necessarily apply to

the other bands but would ask the "lidfest spotters" to imagine what the DX 
station is hearing on 160 which is probably 1% of what we are hearing. 
Pileups although sounding chaotic are the most productive way to get the 
most stations through in the smallest amount of time unlike the "list 
operations".  73 Mike K4PI 


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