[SEDXC] REMOTE OPERATION

[Mike Greenway]

Agreed, but I still prefer the VUCC limit of 200 Km, or something close to that.  73 Mike

From: Joe Subich, W4TV 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:52 PM
To: Mike Greenway ; sedxc at contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [SEDXC] REMOTE OPERATION


I have no specific commitment to 40 km/25 miles other than that a 25
radius has been long established in the WAS program.  I do think
anything over 100 miles opens the door to "remote shopping."   However,
tying the radius to the amateur's license location will allow an
individual amateur to operate *his own station* remotely from anywhere
within his own DXCC country and will provide some flexibility in
locating *his own station* - which is what those who advocate remote
operation as a solution to HOA restrictions have been so concerned
about.

The goal isn't to prevent owners of remote stations from participating
in DXCC but to eliminate the "rent-a-station by the hour" abuses.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 11/6/2013 11:49 AM, Mike Greenway wrote:
> I just looked at the ARRL site and I see the VUCC rules say 200 Km
> (124 miles) which would be a nice standard for that would allow
> those with remotes to have some lattitude.
>
> From: Joe Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:31 AM
> To: sedxc at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [SEDXC] REMOTE OPERATION
>
>
>> Being able to use remote stations on both coast of
>> the USA does not seem fair in regard to award chasing.
>
> I agree with you there.  For example, CQ DX Marathon prohibits
> the use of remote stations for that program.
>
>> My thoughts are to bring a mileage limit back in for remote and
>> fixed.  Say 250 miles from your FCC station address.
>
> The WAS program has a 25 mile radius ("Contacts must be made from
> the same location, or from locations no two of which are more than
> 50 miles apart"), and VUCC is a 100 km radius ("For VUCC awards on
> 50 through 1296 MHz and Satellite, all contacts must be made from
> locations no more than 200 km apart.").
>
>> My thoughts are to bring a mileage limit back in for remote and
>> fixed.  Say 250 miles from your FCC station address.
>
> I would rather see something that prohibits "remote shopping" ...
> perhaps replacing the third sentence of Rule 9 with: "For the purposes
> of this rule, the transmitter may not be located more than 40 km (25
> miles) from the operator's licensed location unless the operator is
> present at the transmitter.  All transmitters and receivers must be
> contained within a 100 meter (328 foot) diameter circle."
>
> This allows for mobile operation, for someone to "borrow" a station if
> they are out of town on business during a short DXpedition, or operate
> *their own [home] station* remotely - say a resident of Minnesota who
> spends 6 months a year in Florida.  It does prevent someone from using
> a remote station in Washington/Oregon for working the Pacific/Asia, a
> remote station in Maine for working Europe/Middle-East and a remote
> station in South Florida for working South America/South Africa in a
> short period of time ... or from using internet receivers anywhere in
> the world.
>
> 73,
>
>      ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 11/6/2013 9:41 AM, Mike Greenway wrote:
>> Seems the subject of remote stations keeps coming up in regard to
>> DXCC and other awards .  I wrote K4MQG, our DXAC rep for this area,
>> about my thoughts and he said they were drafting something to submit
>> to ARRL.  At one time there were some mileage rules with DXCC but
>> with everyone moving around they dropped that requirement and now you
>> only have to be in the country you are licensed for a QSO to be
>> accepted by DXCC.  Being able to use remote stations on both coast of
>> the USA does not seem fair in regard to award chasing.
>>
>> My thoughts are to bring a mileage limit back in for remote and
>> fixed.  Say 250 miles from your FCC station address. I am not
>> particular on this limit, could be less or more but not 2,500 miles
>> like we have now.  If you move to another QTH area and change your
>> FCC address you can still carry what your totals with you but the
>> mileage limit would apply to the new address for anything worked
>> going forward.  I don’t see where there would be any objections to
>> this.  You would always be able to carry your totals with you. For
>> VUCC all QSO’s must be within 50 KM.
>>
>> I am not against remote stations, just ones that gain an unfair
>> advantage propagation wise by using remotes all over the USA.
>>
>> Gary said ARRL did not always accept their proposals so maybe a note
>> to K1ZZ might help.
>>
>> 73 Mike K4PI _______________________________________________ SEDXC
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