[Skimmertalk] Archive?

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> More to the point is that you've tried to create a red 
> herring by equating CW Skimmer with simple CW decoders

Again, it is not a "red herring."  CW Skimmer = receiver + 
CW Decoder, that's a fact.  CW Skimmer and a SO2R station 
using WriteLog have the very same resources - two receivers 
and a CW decoder.  The only difference is how those parts 
are assembled/used.  

It is not up to contest sponsors or others who harbor prejudice 
against technological advancement to determine how the operator 
to use the available tools (e.g., whether the operator uses an 
Icom, Kenwood, Elecraft or Flex-Radio receiver and whether the 
operator uses a W5XD or VE3NEA decoder) any more than the sponsor 
of a fly fishing tournament can require the participants to use 
a specific brand of fly rod or prohibit the use of hand tied 
flies.  

The rule concerning "assistance" was never based on cw decoders, 
number of receivers, or any other technology used by the operator.
It only pertains to the participation by someone other than the 
(single) station operator. Everything else ... all the claims 
that "CW decoders" or specific software are "assistance" is a 
red herring.    



> -----Original Message-----
> From: skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:41 PM
> To: Joe Subich, W4TV
> Cc: skimmertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Skimmertalk] Archive?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The first statement isn't even remotely true.  If it were, the 
> organizers of a bicycle race held on city streets would be 
> required to 
> allow legless individuals to compete on mopeds.  I'm 
> confident that you 
> cannot find, either from the ADA website or any other ruling you can 
> find, a case where the ADA has been applied for any similar 
> activity as 
> you claim it should be for CW in an amateur radio event.
> 
> Regarding your second statement, that may or may not be true. 
>  The fact 
> is that the contest sponsors can make any changes they want 
> to, either 
> in rules or category definitions, in order to adjust to evolving 
> technologies.  More to the point is that you've tried to create a red 
> herring by equating CW Skimmer with simple CW decoders, and 
> to quote the 
> recent ruling in Parhat v Gates 
> (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/30/court.poem/index.html 
> ), saying 
> it three times (or more) doesn't make it true.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Subich, W4TV wrote (in separate postings):
> 
> 1.  ADA applies to all activities conducted on/in public 
> facilities and 
> all facilities open to the public.  The amateur spectrum is certainly 
> a "public facility."
> 
> 2. The rules as currently written do not require a specific 
> method of detection.  To change them after more than 10 years 
> in which 
> CW decoding has been used and now that a non-trivial number of 
> participants use decoders would be a travesty.
> 
> 
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