[TenTec] Tentec Amps

Paul pfb@eriecoast.com
Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:17:31 -0400


Chris,
Doing some additonal homework the past week-----????????????------I found
that several other amps using the 500z tubes had greater power output for
the units.  Alot of the older ones are no longer made but on the market  and
owners say that they put out 1500 watts.  The Centurian is listed at 1200 or
1300 watts.  Is this a feature built in the unit for unimagined extended
tube life of the already sturdy and hefty tubes.  Surely the ads on new
units about the competition(Ameritron) being able to produce more output for
the same tube is a marketing tool and not sincerely representing the reason
why this is so.  I brought this up earlier but no one responded.  It is not
crutial to any decision at that power because the 200 -300watts are not
significant on the receiving end, especially at this level but I would like
to understand the design and purpose for it.  No way do I doubt the
engineers at Tentec.  I don't think they do anything without a reason and it
probably would have been easy for them to make the 1500++ rating on a pair
of 500z's.  Why did they not do it?  Curious and looking to understand the
how the competition is fighting for the dollar.  I do believe that this ad
has to be and is intended for potential Tentec Centurian purchasers!
Paul
KI8HO

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Robson <crobson@erie.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Tentec Amps


>
> As a ham that has bought and sold a number of Ten Tec equipment via this
> listserver, I can appreciate the note of confirmation. I have taken
> personal checks(prefer cashiers checks) from buyers with no problems, only
> after I had regular corrspondence with the buyer and set up all the
> arrangements and actually checked their call sign in a data base to see if
> their residence as changed recently. I guess I am a trusting soul. In
> regards to you plight with the amps, I picked up my Centurion from this
> very listserve from a fellow ham near Philadelphia and I drove 7 hours to
> pick it up, just so we could close the deal honestly and fairly(I live at
> the other end of Pa.!). I paid with a cashiers check. I believe the rating
> system that has developed has been very helpful(ie 10 being like new to 1
> being a boat anchor). However we need to be honest in our evaluations.
Just
> remember, we are buying used gear. If someone expects new equipment with
no
> dust on the knobs or the original plastic wrap, pass along Ten Tec's 800
> number, because this person will make your life miserable by purchasing
> your well taken care of "used" equipment. I have always made sure that the
> person that bought my Ten Tec equipment knew exactly how it was used, I
> wouldn't sell something I was not happy with myself. I am proud of the
> honorable way we do business with each other here on this listserve, and
> for the most part we are selling something we "love" to be cared for by
> another.
>         Good note Paul.
> 73, Chris KB3A
>
>
>
> At 12:21 PM 9/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Paul <pfb@eriecoast.com>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 12:07 PM
> >Subject: [TenTec] Tentec Amps
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Participants of Tentec Board
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> John,
> >>
> >> Thank you for the words and input.  For the past week or so I have been
> >> negotiating on a Tentec Centaur. We did come terms on price and
shipping
> >and
> >> I found it odd that I was sitting down at the computer today to email
the
> >> seller to let him know that I am walking away from the transaction.
> >Before
> >> doing that, I thought I would check my email and found a ton of Tentec.
> >So
> >> it got me off of the immeidate project at hand a allowed me to relax a
bit
> >> and come across you email.
> >>
> >> I thought it proper to post this because of the help, input and
opinions
> >> that all appeared and responded to my questions.  In the threads and
> >flurry
> >> of e-mails about this endeavour one of the thread participants advised
> >that
> >> it be good business to sumarize in a letter or email and have
> >documentation.
> >> I don't remember if it was Mike, Grover, John, Mitch ---- I apposigize
for
> >> that --- I jsut couldn't find the email but I remember it like etched
> >stone
> >> in my mind.  After a lull of a couple of days the seller responded and
I
> >> replied with a list of what I was getting.
> >>
> >>
> >> Examples   1)  One used Tentec 2 year old Centaur
> >>                   2)  Documentation for service
> >>                   3)  Original manual and box
> >>             ect. ect. ect.
> >> The question "is all of this Accurate?" was included.
> >>
> >>
> >> Total of 7 specifics were listed.  It was at this time that I asked
that
> >"if
> >> this was found to not be accurate or I was mislead that I be allowed to
> >> return the shipped item back for a full refund."
> >>
> >> In addition, I asked if it could be shipped COD allowing a stressfree,
> >> secure and fast transaction for all.
> >>
> >> The response to my latest inquirery was from the seller is "it is all
> >> packaged and ready to go,  if you want it send me a personal check and
I
> >> will send you the unit"
> >>
> >> That is it ---- no responsse to the list, the verification, the
> >> documentation, the return policy, the COD request.
> >>
> >>
> >> I am sorry that I do not have access to the email of who reminded me of
> >good
> >> business practice, I thought I saved it but I could not track it down
to
> >let
> >> you know how it helped but did I appreciate the reminder.  The unit is
> >> probably fine, and he is probably a great ham and very trustworthy
person
> >> but for me to save a couple of hundred and maybe loose over 500 to save
> >> that --I do not think it wise at this time.  There is something about
> >> sending a personal check to and for something that I cannot touch -
feel
> >and
> >> see unless it is brand new from a  manufacturer or dealer.
 Anyway ----I
> >> don't think this deal is goint to happen.  I do have resevations about
> >> sending a personal check to anyone without the product in hand.  No
matter
> >> who they are or what there referances.
> >>
> >> So here I sit --- no amp but having fun with our hobby.
> >> And after a week, and saying that I had it all decided, with the deal
> >going
> >> south --- I am still mulling over the idea of a Centurian or an Alpha.
> >Got
> >> a lead on an Alpha 91b for a sweet price but it is 4 years old but will
do
> >> the 1500watts++.  Cost is Same as a new Centurian.  HMMMMMM.  But it
will
> >be
> >> a bit of time and will probably be gone by the time that can be a
reality.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >> KI8HO
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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