[TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector

[John L Merrill]

I agree with you except maybe the last statement. I don't think there is
enough other traffic on this list to have to go to a separate one. I suspect
most die-hard Tecies that subscribe to this list also subscribe to the
Pegasus list, the Jupiter list and the Orion list. Why not have it all in
one and avoid the pain of subscribing to many.

My 50 cents worth,

John N1JM

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bill Rowlett
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:14 AM
To: SteveBaron at StarLinX.com; eric at k3na.org; tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector


Why would they be interested in another list and having it moved. Is this
not the Ten-Tec list??  Why have another?? Some people just need to control
something so they go off on their own.

Flame suit on and I'm off to the cave.

73,  kc4atu




>From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron at StarLinX.com>
>Reply-To: Steve Baron - KB3MM
><SteveBaron at StarLinX.com>,tentec at contesting.com
>To: <eric at k3na.org>, <tentec at contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector
>Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:23:29 -0000
>
>This is such an important issue, one would think that Ten Tec would be
>interested in the Orion and get the list moved.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric at k3na.org>
>To: "Bill Tippett W4ZV" <btippett at alum.mit.edu>
>Cc: "TenTec mailing list" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 03:50
>Subject: [TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector
>
>
> > Hi Bill --
> >
> >    Yahoo's privacy policy has improved over the last couple of years.
>But
>this is part of Yahoo's privacy statement that I object
> > to:
> >
> > "Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal information about you ...
>except ... under the following circumstances:
> > We provide the information to trusted partners who work on behalf of or
>with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These
> > companies may use your personal information to help Yahoo! communicate
>with you about offers from Yahoo! and our marketing partners.
> > "
> >
> >    And here: "Web pages may contain electronic images (called a
>"single-pixel GIF" or "web beacon") that allow a web site to count
> > users who have visited that page or to access certain cookies. Yahoo!
>uses
>web beacons in the following ways:   Yahoo! uses web
> > beacons to conduct research on behalf of certain partners on their web
>sites and also for auditing purposes."  And further: "Yahoo!
> > uses web beacons to access Yahoo! cookies inside and outside our network
>of web sites"
> >
> >    I object to Yahoo providing my personal information to third parties,
>and to Yahoo! accessing cookies not related to its specific
> > web site.
> >
> >    While I would dearly love to participate in the Orion email
>reflector,
>I'm not going to lend support to a company which insists
> > on providing information that it collects to outsiders with no opt-out
>ability.  And there is now no way to participate in a
> > Yahoo-controlled email reflector without registering and providing this
>personal information.
> >
> >    The reason that I raise the matter here is that I would like the list
>moderator to reconsider hosting the list elsewhere; e.g.,
> > on the same service that is hosting the TenTec reflector.
> >
> > -- Eric K3NA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com
> > [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bill Tippett
> > Sent: 2003 September 23 Tuesday 10:17
> > To: tentec at contesting.com
> > Subject: [TenTec] Yahoo, etc
> >
> >
> >          Before everyone totally badmouths Yahoo, here is a
> > copy of the note I sent to Eric K3NA.
> >
> >                                          73,  Bill  W4ZV
> >
> > N1JM:
> >  >Once you sign up, there is a way to opt out of all that marketing
>stuff.
> >
> >          Eric, this is true.  I opened a separate Yahoo E-mail account
> > (free) because I had the same concerns as you (i.e. getting spam from
> > Yahoo).  But...
> >
> > 1.  I opted out of all the marketing options.
> > 2.  I never get anything from Yahoo directly.
> > 3.  Yahoo has one of the most effective spam filters around...so much
> > so that I now forward all mail to an old spam-compromised address at my
> > current ISP to Yahoo, and 90-95% of it is caught by their "Bulk" spam
> > filter.  What spam remains can be tagged as spam which they use to
>improve
> > their filters.
> >
> >          I'm so happy with Yahoo's Bulk filter that I've even considered
> > signing up for POP access (only $9.95 per year) and running ALL my
>e-mail
> > through their filter first and then forwarding what's left to my current
> > ISP.  I use a very effective spam filter (Mailwasher Pro) for all my
> > non-Yahoo addresses, but it it not nearly as effective as Yahoo's
>because
> > of the huge volume of messages their site sees, which contributes to the
> > quality of their filter.  It's like having a gigantic callsign database
>for
> > CT versus one you personally construct!
> >
> >                                                  73,  Bill  W4ZV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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