[TenTec] Orion Mic Woe's

[NJ0IP]

Yes, that's about my only alternative, though I hate doing half jobs.
If I can't do it right, I don't really want to do it at all.
Perhaps I'll just scrounge through the junkbox and hunt out the best
combination of discrete wires and simply rig up a straight cable, without
the spiral.  It won't be as pretty but it will be done correct.
In fact my mike cable can exit the Orion and go directly through a hole in
the desktop and feed to the front under the desk. 

I've searched through a couple of catalogs here and can't find any spiral
cable incorporating dual shielded wires.  I have no idea where to even find
something like that.

By the way, I live in Germany so "Radio Shack" is not an option :-((

73
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Toby Pennington
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:04 AM
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Mic Woe's

You are right,  I was talking about the Heil cable which has a shield braid 
that goes around all the mike wires/  But give it try with the shield you 
have available and see if it works. Pin 3 is PTT, Pin 2 is gnd, and pin 1 is

Mike audio, and the shield goes to the shell of your connector and the other

end to the shell of the mike.  Toby W4CAK

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>; "'Toby Pennington'" <toby423 at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: [TenTec] Orion Mic Woe's


> OK Toby,
>
> Here's what I found inside.
>
> There are three wires (Red, Black, & Clear).
> The cable's shield actually only shields the clear wire.
> There is no shield for the red or black wires.
>
> It seems to me I would need a shield around the wire I choose for Mic- as
> well as the clear one which will be Mic+.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong.  I hope so because I won't be able to get any other cable
> or wire until Monday.
>
> Otherwise I'll just do it as you suggest.
>
> 73
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Toby Pennington
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 8:22 AM
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Mic Woe's
>
> Yep,  Just fold the shield braid back over the insulation and secure the
> clamps down tight over the shield braid to make a secure mechanical
> conntection, cut away any excess that sticks out of the connector. 
> Connect
> the other end of the ground braid to the mike shell.
>
> Toby W4CAK
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:10 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] Orion Mic Woe's
>
>
>> Gentlemen, forget the "theory" and focus on practice.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have just disassembled my 30 year old Shure 444 and as I suspected, it
>> has
>> both grounds tied together to pin 2.
>>
>> To be exact, pin 2 has the cable shield attached and the "mic-" and "PTT
>> Gnd"  are both tied to this.
>>
>> There is yet another unused wire in the cable which I could use for the
>> mic-
>> but I still face one more problem:
>>
>> How on earth do you make a good electrical and mechanical connection to
>> the
>> 4-pole plug's case?
>>
>> This has not been provisioned for.
>>
>> I thought maybe my old plug was outdated, so I inspected the new plug 
>> that
>> shipped with my Orion and it is exactly the same.
>>
>> The only way I see to do this is to run the shield back along the outside
>> of
>> the cable and secure with the strain release.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone else been there and done?
>>
>> How?
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Rick
>>
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