[TenTec] Real CW

[jack]

the best thing about slow code is that one carry on a conversation or read a 
book or scan the web while chatting,
jack ak7o

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wes Attaway (N5WA)" <n5wa at sport.rr.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Real CW


> >From my perspective, while it is not difficult to copy 5wpm code the 
> >speed
> is so slow that all of the rhythmic nature of the code is missing.  Code 
> has
> better rhythm as speed increases towards 20wpm or so.  I find 5wpm code to
> be about as uncomfortable as dancing to a song that is being played at 
> about
> 1/4 the normal speed.  All rhythm and the attendant pleasantness goes down
> the drain.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Notarius
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:28 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Real CW
>
>
> Longer ago than I want to think about, back when the FCC actually gave
> exams, I was going for my General code at the quarterly Pittsburgh PA test
> session (at the now departed 'Holiday House' in Monroeville just outside
> Pgh, but I digress).  A candidate actually did attempt to copy code by
> writing down the dots and dashes, and was told by the examiner when he
> turned in his test that this was not acceptable, as it was not "copying" 
> the
> code -- ie, comprehension was what was desired, not merely writing down 
> the
> sounds and looking at it later.  (No, I don't know who he is/was, though I
> do also remember a buddy of his shoving a Bash book under my nose on the 
> way
> out... and FWIW, I passed General and just missed Advanced that day...)
>
> Thereafter, at every test session I took while shooting for my 20 WPM, I
> heard the FCC examiners state during the instructions that writing down 
> dots
> & dashes was NOT considered copying the code and WOULD NOT be accepted.
>
> I've also heard (or said) statements to that effect at almost every VE
> session I've been involved with since the VE program was implemented.
>
> Having said all this... I do agree with Scott's two basic premises:
> (a)  With few exceptions, copying 5 WPM is not that difficult
> (b)  It's a shame that none of the OT's piped up and offered to help
>
> And gang... those of you who've only had to deal with a VE team to take 
> your
> exam(s) may not believe this, but trust me, those sessions are MUCH easier
> than sitting in front of a grumpy FCC staff person who'd rather be doing
> almost anything else at 8:30 on a Tuesday or Wednesday morning...
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott / W4PJ" <w4pj at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Real CW
>
>
>> Five words a minute.
>>
>> Five characters times five in five minutes.
>>
>> The day I went in for my Extra, I carried paper and pencil, and when they
>> ran the code for the 5wpm, I decided to jot down every dot and dash.  I
>> filled the paper with marks for  twentyfive 'words' on the paper,
>> containing
>> dots and dashes.  I didn't try to copy what was sent, just put the dots
>> and
>> dashes on the paper at five wpm.  Guess what?  No Problem!
>>
>> Since the current test has no time limit, anybody who says they can't 
>> take
>> the 5wpm test just doesn't even have the ability,, er, I mean desire to
>> jot
>> dots and dashes down on a piece of paper and then translate the text at
>> their own liesure.  That person just doesn't want it. At all.  C'mon, the
>> difficulty level of jotting the dots and dashes down on paper only takes
>> hand motion, not mental ability at all.  You don't even have to be able 
>> to
>> "copy" code at 5wpm.
>>
>> You gotta be too much more than just lazy to not get 5wpm at today's
>> standards.
>>
>>
>> PEACE
>> Scott / W4PJ
>>
>> P.S. It's too bad no OT piped up and said, "If you want some help, I'll
>> work
>> with you."
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <K4IA at aol.com>
>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Real CW
>>
>>
>>> Our local club usually runs a General class but the last time we did it,
>>> everyone passed the theory and in a full year, no one passed the code.
>>>
>>> This year when someone asked when we would be running the General class,
>> one
>>> esteemed Elmer piped up, "When you pass the code, we will hold a General
>>> Class to cover the theory."  The silence was deafening.
>>>
>>> Radio  k4ia
>>> "Buck"
>>> Fredericksburg, VA USA
>>>
>
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