In a message dated 8/25/2005 9:34:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, K9RT at aol.com writes: only one contact got upset when I offered him a realistic price because he refused to put his own price on it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just what IS a realistic price for an early Orion, no tuner, no hardware updates, no blemishes? Bill K3UJ