[TenTec] DX radios

[john ferro]

how about this: the rig, the operators skills and then and only then the antenna system! you could twist it anyway you want!> From: kc4atu at hotmail.com> To: tentec at contesting.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:33:11 +0000> Subject: Re: [TenTec] DX radios> > > Antenna system, Operator skills, then and only then the Rig.> > 73 and good DX > Bill KC4ATU> From: foxbat426 at hotmail.com> To: tentec at contesting.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:57:38 -0400> Subject: Re: [TenTec] DX radios> > > larry, what i am talking about is all things considered equal, the OII won't hear anything more than the rigs i mentioned, plus many others. read - all things considered equal. yes some operators are more persistent than others, some will give a signal a chance, some won't - so like you say there are weak links - but all things considered equal. the OII is a fine rig, but way to much credance is given to the rig - maybe that is what the original poster was trying to say. by the way larry the cable guy is way better than ron white! i have to say ron white is the "weak link" in that trio.> > 73, john> From: W1GOR at maine.rr.com> To: tentec at contesting.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:25:05 -0400> Subject: Re: [TenTec] DX radios> > John, I am not trying to be facetious when I repeat this ancient saying... > "A chain is no stronger than it's weakest link"... RF is not worth a > plug-nickel if it's not properly launched into and received from the > atmosphere. A rig that can pull a weak signal out of a pileup is most > desirable. Good audio and a great 'fist' will surely get someone's > attention. But, operators who are courteous, persistent, and patient will > make the most of just about any lashup of equipment, antennas, and band > conditions will get the job done... We've all seen the setups on field > day... Jury-rigged antennas, intermittent power supplies, and endless > supplies of flies, mosquitoes, and rain, heat, no sleep, and the immutable > laws of Murphy, never seems to discourage the operator who really want to > have a great time working under adverse conditions. ...and yet, there are > the LIDS, the MORONS, and the RUDE. My favorite line from the 'Blue Collar > Comedy Tour' is one of Ron White's lines..."YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID..!!!"> > In the TV broadcast industry, there are 'chains'... the audio chain, and the > video chain... and each chain is no stronger that the weakest link in that > chain...> > vy 73, Larry - W1GOR> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john ferro" <foxbat426 at hotmail.com>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:22 PM> Subject: Re: [TenTec] DX radios> > > > ok point taken - but nothing substitutes for a great antenna - period! there > are some instances where all the bells and whistles will get the station - > they are far and few between though - i've got to laugh at all the operators > working an OII or elecraft K3 or some other megabuck top end rig and > thinking they have the ultimate station because of the rig - yet their > antenna is a half hearted piece of wire or half hearted vertical with 10 > radials that they say can work all the bands - i'll take the cheapo 200 rig > with a properly designed antenna system installed correctly vs. the 5000.00 > rig and a 100.00 worth of wire or "second thought" antenna system anyday.> > john> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:07:38 -0400> From: roncasa at verizon.net> To: > tentec at contesting.com> Subject: Re: [TenTec] DX radios> > Kc9cdt at aol.com > wrote:> > > >> > Just the other day I was tryuing to work a DX station. Had > the Collins on. > > Heard him, but coul not copy him. He was pretty weak 4-4 > maybe in the clear.. > > BUT he was not in the clear. Someone was 2 Khz away > and very strong.> >> > I turned on the OII, did some work with AGC, > bandwidth and High cut.> > BINGO, clear copy. I worked him.> >> > > > > > > Thank you for proving my point:> > Guys can boast what rigs they have and it > don't mean a thing if they do > not know enough to use it.> > again, it's > the operator.> > Thank you> > Peace> Ron> > _______________________________________________> TenTec mailing list> > TenTec at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec> _________________________________________________________________> E-mail for the greater good. 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