[TenTec] Final Firmware O2

Wed Nov 11 18:58:31 PST 2009

It is my understanding that the K3 is a superb CW rig...but not even in the same ballpark as OII for SSB???
Am I missinformed?
73,
Lee, KC9CDT

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Shock <douglas.shock at gmail.com>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2

that is correct...
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Philip C. Anderson
xtraham58 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
 Not that it matters to me, but it is my understanding that ON4UN is now
 using 2 loaded K'3s.

 > From: marsh at ka5m.net
 > To: tentec at contesting.com; douglas.shock at gmail.com
 > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:10:27 -0600
 > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
 >
 > Douglas,
 >
 > What is your source of information for your following statement?
 >
 > "If it was such a great and finished product then why did most if not all
 of
 > the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators bail on TenTec?"
 >
 > What did they bail to?
 >
 > The National Contest Journal July/August 2009 Volume 37 Number 4 contains
 an
 > extensive article on "Choosing an HF Radio for Serious Contesting and
 > DXing". Of the four (4) transceivers the author picks, the Ten-Tec ORION
 II
 > is one of them.
 >
 > I'm not convinced that I've ever missed a DX or contest QSO that I could
 > have worked if I had been using something better than my ORION II.
 >
 > 73,
 > Marsh, KA5M
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:
 tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
 > On Behalf Of Douglas Shock
 > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:02 AM
 > To: Scott Harwood; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
 > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
 >
 > Whiners? Do you really feel that was required Scott? So your level of
 > expectation on a delivered product is different than others. I personally
 > find no fault in OI-OII owners holding TenTec's feet to the fire on the
 > marketing campaign they used for both radios. that hardly makes me a
 whiner.
 > If it was such a great and finished product then why did most if not all
 of
 > the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators bail on TenTec? Maybe they knew
 > something you don't?
 >
 > Sure, in its base form it is a fair radio. But face the facts man...you
 > really believe they got the firmware right? And to release a beta with
 > enhancements that in themselves are broke but no fixes and then are never
 > heard from again? Sounds like the joke is on the operator if you support
 > this business practice.
 >
 > So drive on if you still drink the TenTec coolaid or just find it
 necessary
 > to defend your spent monies. But respect the rights of others homie...
 >
 > Hiding behind your keyboard with big mouth and no accountability is not a
 > good thing.
 >
 >
 >
 > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Scott Harwood
 > <scotthsr at earthlink.net>wrote:
 >
 > > I couldn't have said it better, Dennis.
 > >
 > > Good job. I hope enough "whiners" read it.
 > >
 > > Palstar does have great stuff. I have two tuners. They could improve on
 > > answering emails, though.
 > >
 > > Scott K4VWK
 > >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > >From: Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004 at yahoo.com>
 > > >Sent: Nov 11, 2009 8:37 AM
 > > >To: tentec at contesting.com
 > > >Subject: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
 > > >
 > > >Hmmm, some of you need to cut back on the coffee...
 > > >
 > > >The O2 is a fine radio, well positioned in the upper reaches of ham
 radio
 > > transceivers...
 > > >The biggest whine I see is that they are not producing enough firmware
 > > changes to make you happy..
 > > >It appears that some believe the K3 radio with its rapid parade of
 > > firmware revisions is somehow superior because it needs frequent
 revising
 > -
 > > this does not bespeak superior, to me; adaptable maybe, a secondary
 hobby
 > in
 > > it's own right, but not necessarily superior......
 > > >
 > > >Then I read the moaning about the O2 sweep; and they didn't do this,
 they
 > > didn't do that, etc...
 > > >Last time I checked the ads the K3 does not have a sweep screen... But
 > > somehow, not having a sweep screen makes it the superior radio, because
 > > Orion is not upgrading its sweep screen fast enough - the logic of that
 > > escapes me...
 > > >If you want a radio with a fancy sweep screen get a Pro III...
 > > >If you want an even fancier sweep screen get an LP PAN for your Orion
 /
 > > K3...
 > > >
 > > >If you want an even fancier radio get one of the $11K to $13K models
 > from
 > > the land of the rising sun - but don't expect the factory to answer the
 > > phone and put the technician that built and aligned your radio on the
 > phone
 > > to talk you through a problem - which both Orion and Elecraft do
 > > routinely...
 > > >
 > > >I happen to have the O2... I have looked hard at the K3 with the more
 > > capable sub receiver - as recently as 2 weeks ago... But, the less
 > > desirable ergonomics of the radio outweigh the receiver advantage and I
 > > opted to stay with the Orion for the third year... The O2 has the best
 > > combination of receiver and ergonomics I have found in 45 years of ham
 > > radio...
 > > >
 > > >Lastly, I am thrilled to have Ten Tec and Elecraft slugging it out in
 the
 > > ham radio arena... A vast improvement over the import radios that have
 > > dominated the ham business for some time..
 > > >And while I am mentioning US companies, let me point out that PALSTAR
 > > acquired the Commander amplifiers and has put considerable time,
 > innovation,
 > > and money, into improving those amps until they appear to me, to be the
 > best
 > > amps in the business... They now have a complete line of tuners, meters
 > and
 > > high quality amps... You could do a lot worse than spend your ham
 dollars
 > > with them - and drive that amp with a new O2 or K3...
 > > >
 > > >denny / k8do
 > > >
 > > >
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