[TenTec] Final Firmware O2

Wed Nov 11 19:27:32 PST 2009

Well it depends on how you define superb ssb but for me the k3 is  
leaps beyond in both recieve and tx. Your milage could vary though.

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On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:58 PM, kc9cdt at aol.com wrote:

>
> It is my understanding that the K3 is a superb CW rig...but not even  
> in the same ballpark as OII for SSB???
> Am I missinformed?
> 73,
> Lee, KC9CDT
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Shock <douglas.shock at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
>
>
>
> that is correct...
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Philip C. Anderson
> xtraham58 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
> Not that it matters to me, but it is my understanding that ON4UN is  
> now
> using 2 loaded K'3s.
>
>> From: marsh at ka5m.net
>> To: tentec at contesting.com; douglas.shock at gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:10:27 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
>>
>> Douglas,
>>
>> What is your source of information for your following statement?
>>
>> "If it was such a great and finished product then why did most if  
>> not all
> of
>> the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators bail on TenTec?"
>>
>> What did they bail to?
>>
>> The National Contest Journal July/August 2009 Volume 37 Number 4  
>> contains
> an
>> extensive article on "Choosing an HF Radio for Serious Contesting and
>> DXing". Of the four (4) transceivers the author picks, the Ten-Tec  
>> ORION
> II
>> is one of them.
>>
>> I'm not convinced that I've ever missed a DX or contest QSO that I  
>> could
>> have worked if I had been using something better than my ORION II.
>>
>> 73,
>> Marsh, KA5M
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:
> tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of Douglas Shock
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:02 AM
>> To: Scott Harwood; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
>>
>> Whiners? Do you really feel that was required Scott? So your level of
>> expectation on a delivered product is different than others. I  
>> personally
>> find no fault in OI-OII owners holding TenTec's feet to the fire on  
>> the
>> marketing campaign they used for both radios. that hardly makes me a
> whiner.
>> If it was such a great and finished product then why did most if  
>> not all
> of
>> the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators bail on TenTec? Maybe they  
>> knew
>> something you don't?
>>
>> Sure, in its base form it is a fair radio. But face the facts  
>> man...you
>> really believe they got the firmware right? And to release a beta  
>> with
>> enhancements that in themselves are broke but no fixes and then are  
>> never
>> heard from again? Sounds like the joke is on the operator if you  
>> support
>> this business practice.
>>
>> So drive on if you still drink the TenTec coolaid or just find it
> necessary
>> to defend your spent monies. But respect the rights of others  
>> homie...
>>
>> Hiding behind your keyboard with big mouth and no accountability is  
>> not a
>> good thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Scott Harwood
>> <scotthsr at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I couldn't have said it better, Dennis.
>>>
>>> Good job. I hope enough "whiners" read it.
>>>
>>> Palstar does have great stuff. I have two tuners. They could  
>>> improve on
>>> answering emails, though.
>>>
>>> Scott K4VWK
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004 at yahoo.com>
>>>> Sent: Nov 11, 2009 8:37 AM
>>>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, some of you need to cut back on the coffee...
>>>>
>>>> The O2 is a fine radio, well positioned in the upper reaches of ham
> radio
>>> transceivers...
>>>> The biggest whine I see is that they are not producing enough  
>>>> firmware
>>> changes to make you happy..
>>>> It appears that some believe the K3 radio with its rapid parade of
>>> firmware revisions is somehow superior because it needs frequent
> revising
>> -
>>> this does not bespeak superior, to me; adaptable maybe, a secondary
> hobby
>> in
>>> it's own right, but not necessarily superior......
>>>>
>>>> Then I read the moaning about the O2 sweep; and they didn't do  
>>>> this,
> they
>>> didn't do that, etc...
>>>> Last time I checked the ads the K3 does not have a sweep  
>>>> screen... But
>>> somehow, not having a sweep screen makes it the superior radio,  
>>> because
>>> Orion is not upgrading its sweep screen fast enough - the logic of  
>>> that
>>> escapes me...
>>>> If you want a radio with a fancy sweep screen get a Pro III...
>>>> If you want an even fancier sweep screen get an LP PAN for your  
>>>> Orion
> /
>>> K3...
>>>>
>>>> If you want an even fancier radio get one of the $11K to $13K  
>>>> models
>> from
>>> the land of the rising sun - but don't expect the factory to  
>>> answer the
>>> phone and put the technician that built and aligned your radio on  
>>> the
>> phone
>>> to talk you through a problem - which both Orion and Elecraft do
>>> routinely...
>>>>
>>>> I happen to have the O2... I have looked hard at the K3 with the  
>>>> more
>>> capable sub receiver - as recently as 2 weeks ago... But, the less
>>> desirable ergonomics of the radio outweigh the receiver advantage  
>>> and I
>>> opted to stay with the Orion for the third year... The O2 has the  
>>> best
>>> combination of receiver and ergonomics I have found in 45 years of  
>>> ham
>>> radio...
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, I am thrilled to have Ten Tec and Elecraft slugging it  
>>>> out in
> the
>>> ham radio arena... A vast improvement over the import radios that  
>>> have
>>> dominated the ham business for some time..
>>>> And while I am mentioning US companies, let me point out that  
>>>> PALSTAR
>>> acquired the Commander amplifiers and has put considerable time,
>> innovation,
>>> and money, into improving those amps until they appear to me, to  
>>> be the
>> best
>>> amps in the business... They now have a complete line of tuners,  
>>> meters
>> and
>>> high quality amps... You could do a lot worse than spend your ham
> dollars
>>> with them - and drive that amp with a new O2 or K3...
>>>>
>>>> denny / k8do
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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