[TenTec] wither CW?

Phil Chambley Sr. k4dpk at comcast.net
Mon May 24 16:45:53 PDT 2010



 Possibly I didn't clarify my point to the extent necessary.  I have nothing 
against the use of keyers, bugs (I use both) or even keyboards for sending.



But nowadays one can find a DX station's frequency on a cluster, have the 
computer copy him and then press a button to send a canned transmission, and 
do all this without being able to copy his own name at 5 wpm.  These are the 
ones to which I referred, and I think there should be a scoring difference 
for those, compared to folks who actually do know the code at whatever 
level.



It bothers me to hear someone say he worked  a station on CW, when in fact 
he can't copy or send at any speed.



Phil C. Sr.

k4dpk



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "N4PY2" <n4py2 at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?


> Nobody that is at all serious about contesting uses a straight key.  I 
> know
> many contesters, many who are highly skilled at CW.  They all use keyers
> with memories to send their CQ's and copy in their heads to get the QSO's.
> All these people can easily copy CW at 40+ wpm in their heads.  The keyers
> are just a mechanism to send the CW with.  It is almost impossible to send
> CW at 20 wpm or higher with a straight key.  They do not use code readers.
> Code readers are useless during typical QRM during a contest.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 121 Little Bell Drive
> Hays, NC 28635
> www.n4py.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richards" <jruing at ameritech.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>
>
>>I don't want to hijack the thread or cause a flame war,  but I agree
>> with the notion there should be more points awarded to contesters
>> (contestants?) who actually pound out the code with their fist, and who
>> do not use electronic keyers to generate transmitted code.  I thank we
>> should reward the operator for HIS skill, not that of his computer.  I
>> know this would slow the pace, and reduce the number of contacts,  but
>> it would be the operator, and not his computer at work.   If contests,
>> like field day, are to simulate high pressure, need to operate NOW,
>> scenarios, then  he would need to have his own ability to pound the
>> brass, as a computer may not be available. I don't use a voice keyer on
>> SSB contests for the same reason.  If I can't talk for 24 hours, and the
>> other guy can, he deserves to win.
>>
>> And, parenthetically, I'm finding this code thing terribly difficult  to
>> learn!
>> But I will get there, eventually...
>>
>>
>> Just my take....
>>
>> Happy trails.
>>
>> ====================  Richards - K8JHR ====================
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/24/2010 4:56 PM, Jim Brown K9YC wrote:
>>
>>> Virtually ALL serious contesters use computers to SEND CW,
>>> but the vast majority I know of use the computer between
>>> his/her ears to COPY it.
>>>
>>
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