[TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna

[Paul Gentry]

Remember an outdoor television antenna is protected by FCC regulations
that supersede any CC&Rs.  An HF antenna can be easily hidden within
the confines of the mast, grounding, cabling, guying, etc.  Create
makes a Log Periodic to work the VHF and UHF bands that falls in-line
with the TV antenna regs. if you need something for TX/RX on 6 meters
and up.

Paul K4BWG

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Richards <jruing at ameritech.net> wrote:
> I know of a ham who put up a wood utility pole - heavy duty - and
> mounted a big honking halogen light on it.   He ran the wire from the
> house to the pole over ground... from the peak of the house to the top
> of the pole... and turned it on and off a lot when it was new...
>
> but now the lamp is off, and the wire has become his antenna.   He is
> thinking of adding another pole at the other far corner of the lot and
> making a loop ... after he gets everyone used to thinking it is another
> light pole.
>
> I really admire his approach.
>
> We are now thinking of have one of the local hams (who works for the
> power company) stop by another ham's condo and hook up a wire antenna
> from the peak of his condo unit to a utility pole, letting everyone
> think it is a power line.  Other guys in the condo association have run
> random wired from their attics (tuned with Icom auto tuners) out into
> the trees behind the condo units.   They just shoot the wires at night
> and everyone thinks they are utility wires - mostly never noticing them
> - they just appear one day and the hams just play quiet about them.
>
> So far so good...
>
> Something like this just might work for other guys.
>
> ================================= K8JHR  ============================
>
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>
> On 11/30/2010 1:43 PM, Clayton Brantley wrote:
>> I remember several years ago Al Henderson (SK) K6AJ and I made two 3-500z amps
>> and Al took one of his verticals to VA.
>> They were installed and as far as I know, it's still there and working.  Al was
>> the owner of Signature Antenna Systems in San
>> Diego, CA.  His antenna is a beast!  Fully sealed in a dry nitrogen atsomphere
>> and tunable from 2 to 30 mhz remotely.
>>
>> He sold a bunch of them to the Navy and Air Force.  I do have a 3 or 4 page
>> booklet describing the antenna.  Also, the 3-500z
>> amp was the first "no tune" I knew of.  I had one of them working 40 metere from
>> 6.8 to 7.4 mhz!
>>
>> Happy DXing
>> Clayton N4EV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "kf6e at mail.com"<kf6e at mail.com>
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 11:04:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna
>>
>> Thanks.  If flagpoles were allowed, I'd have a flagpole antenna.  I spent about
>> a half hour talking with my lawyer last night,
>>
>> and there are no loopholes in VA law that I could use.  The only flags allowed
>> in our community are the type that attach
>> to the exterior wall.  I have an MFJ apartment antenna that I might be able to
>> disguise that way.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm going to apply for permission to erect a basketball backstop in the back
>> yard.  The screwdriver vertical will just fit inside a six-inch PVC pipe.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>> Frank
>> KF6E
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Clayton Brantley<clayton_n4ev at yahoo.com>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2010 4:09 pm
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna
>>
>>
>> This month's QST has a real good article on a flagpole antenna.
>>
>> Another article a few years back shows how to put a Hustler 5BTV inside
>>
>> PVC water pipe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Might want to look at those.  Good luck with the snoops!  Hi.
>>
>> Might run a bluff citing Dept of Homeland Security, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73's Clayton N4EV
>>
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>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: "Rsoifer at aol.com"<Rsoifer at aol.com>
>>
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>>
>> Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 11:09:35 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Indoor Antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Another possible alternative, depending on your state law, is a flagpole
>>
>> vertical.  Here in Arizona, state law allows  homeowners to display the
>>
>> American flag, military service, POW/MIA, the  state and Arizona Indian nation
>>
>> flags. HOAs may not prohibit flagpoles, but  may adopt "reasonable rules and
>>
>> regulations regarding the placement and manner  of display" of flags,
>>
>> including rules regulating the location and size of  flagpoles (ARS 33-1808).
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Ray W2RS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/29/2010 3:17:14 P.M. GMT Standard Time, kf6e at mail.com
>>
>> writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds like good advice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I laid out some  ground radials in the back yard and installed a mount for
>>
>> my screwdriver  vertical.  I put that up after dark some evenings, and can
>>
>> work 80 and  160.  Interestingly, the attic dipoles do better on send and
>>
>> receive for  40 through 10.  The screwdriver vertical does pretty well on 80,
>>
>> and  reasonably well on 6 and 2.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been considering an S9-type  vertical, which, being longer, should
>>
>> be more efficient than the  screwdriver.  I'm fairly sure I'd never get away
>>
>> with a beam,  though.  My neighbors complain about just about anything, and
>>
>> there is  even a committee of the HOA that goes around the entire
>>
>> development every week  looking for discrepancies.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Thanks for the  encouragement.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> KF6E
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>>
>> From: Jliving39 at aol.com
>>
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>>
>> Sent:  Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:00 am
>>
>> Subject: [TenTec] OT: Indoor  Antenna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Frank,
>>
>>
>>
>> Suggest that you get into  the Stealth Mode using  the Redneck
>>
>>
>>
>> Philosophy of Not Asking  Permission, but Begging Forgiveness if  Caught.
>>
>> I am
>>
>>
>>
>> sure
>>
>>
>>
>> you could rig up some kind of outside antenna.  I  am in a  restricted area
>>
>>
>>
>> and have a 40meter dipole, a 20, 17, 10 meter  fan  dipole, and a six meter
>>
>>
>>
>> beam outside.  Keep them low  and the associations  won't bother you.
>>
>> However,
>>
>>
>>
>> do not ask  if it is ok.  Simply do  it.
>>
>>
>>
>> jim,  K4CFA
>>
>>
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