[TenTec] Orion's break in

[Barry N1EU]

Two relays?

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de> wrote:
> That makes no sense at all.
> One would think that it adjusts the hang time of the Linear's own relay, and therefore the Orion's internal relay would have to stop clacking.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:08 AM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion's break in
>
> There IS an EXT T/R Delay setting in the TX Menu but it has no effect
> on the keying relay clacking.
>
> Barry N1EU
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de> wrote:
>> Guys, I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that there were TWO adjustments; one for the relay and one for the RX recovery.  It's been over 5 years since I have owned an Orion, but I'm pretty certain it was that way.  In any case, it would have to be one of the items on the TX menu.
>>
>> 73
>> Rick
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 1:40 AM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion's break in
>>
>> Correct Floyd, the CW delay makes the receiver audio quiet but does
>> nothing for the relay clacking in both the Orion and Orion II.
>>
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Floyd Sense <floyd at k8ac.net> wrote:
>>> An interesting question.  I wonder if the Orion and Orion 2 differ in
>>> this respect.  On my Orion 2, I can use the CW delay to achieve
>>> semi-break-in, but I still hear the same relay clacking away.  I
>>> expected to hear the relay only at the beginning and end of a
>>> transmission, but that's not the case - it still follows the keying,
>>> although the receiver is properly muted for the delay set with the CW
>>> delay function.  So, maybe Toshimi's desire to eliminate the relay noise
>>> is not satisfied this way.
>>>
>>> 73, Floyd - K8AC
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2011 5:56 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>>> Menus - CW - CW QSK Delay
>>>>
>>>> start with 25% and increase/decrease as necessary
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Barry N1EU
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP<Rick at dj0ip.de>  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Toshimi,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can adjust the delay of the TR relay.
>>>>> If you select a delay, then it is effectively semi BK and no longer QSK.
>>>>> This was added to the rig after the initial release so it probably was not
>>>>> in the manual.
>>>>> Maybe someone who owns an Orion can jump in and tell you exactly how to
>>>>> adjust it.  I have forgotten.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Toshimi Horie
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:32 PM
>>>>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Orion's break in
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all. I am JE2UFF.
>>>>>
>>>>> This month, I got the Orion of used one from US.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just start operation with it. I can checked user manual, but not found.
>>>>>
>>>>> So please tell me for everyone.
>>>>> The Orion has semi break in mode? I have other rig. That's japanese one.
>>>>> Normaly, japanese transceiver has two kind of break in operation mode. It's
>>>>> semi and full break in.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Orion do the CW mode, each mores code can switch the relay. It is very
>>>>> noisy. Is this normal specs?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it has semi break in mode then the relay can switch for start and finish
>>>>> of two times. Very quaiet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all
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