[TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 106, Issue 10

john marks kb4uxc at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 9 17:19:14 PDT 2011


I sure hope Ten Tec puts 160 on the new qrp rig

On Sun Oct 9th, 2011 3:00 PM EDT tentec-request at contesting.com wrote:

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>   1. Re: Noise in Omni V (Jim WA9YSD)
>   2. Re: Noise in Omni V (Ed)
>   3. Re: Noise in Omni V (Ken Brown)
>   4. Re: Comparison of TS-590S to Omni VII (Richards)
>   5. Re: Question (Simone)
>   6. When and where Ten Tec 418? (Curt)
>   7. Re: Question (Floyd Sense)
>   8. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (doug at kb9ryo.com)
>   9. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (Carl Winkles)
>  10. 160m for th Ten Tec 418? (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
>  11. Orion backup battery (Barry N1EU)
>  12. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (Ron Notarius W3WN)
>  13. Re: 160m for th Ten Tec 418? (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
>  14. Re: 160m for th Ten Tec 418? (Steve Berg)
>  15. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (Curt)
>  16. Re: Question (Simone)
>  17. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (Curt)
>  18. Re: Question (Floyd Sense)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jim WA9YSD <wa9ysd at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Noise in Omni V
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>Could be the internal relays. Even thought they are sealed air still get in and corrosion occurs. Best is to use it and keep switching bands, antennas, and the sort see if it goes away. ?These Omni's seams to like, to be used.
>
>Also record the room temperature at which is occurs and it may be temperature sensitive. See if the room temp rises 5 degrees or lowers 5 degrees or so if it comes back or disappears.
>
>Intermittent issues are a pain in the butt. If you can duplicate the problem a number of times note what might be causing it. ?Time will tell.
>?
>Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith.?Jim K9TF/WA9YSD
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:59:17 -0400
>From: Ed <autek at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Noise in Omni V
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
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>On 10/08/2011 05:26 PM, Jim WA9YSD wrote:
>> Could be the internal relays. Even thought they are sealed air still
>> get in and corrosion occurs. Best is to use it and keep switching
>> bands, antennas, and the sort see if it goes away.  These Omni's
>> seams to like, to be used.
>>
>> Also record the room temperature at which is occurs and it may be
>> temperature sensitive. See if the room temp rises 5 degrees or lowers
>> 5 degrees or so if it comes back or disappears.
>>
>> Intermittent issues are a pain in the butt. If you can duplicate the
>> problem a number of times note what might be causing it.  Time will
>> tell.
>>
>> Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith. Jim
>> K9TF/WA9YSD
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>
>SSB or CW ?????
>
>Ed W3NR
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:15:32 -1000
>From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown at hawaiiantel.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Noise in Omni V
>To: kb4srn at yahoo.com, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>	<tentec at contesting.com>
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>Mode of operation? Filters IF or audio tone and notch in use?
>
>   My friend reported that the noise came through on my signal and wiped 
>it out.
>
>Really? This is an interesting fault. I don't think that rig uses any 
>audio stages that are common to both transmit and receive, so an 
>oscillating audio stage would not do it. Maybe an oscillation in a power 
>supply regulator inside the radio. Three terminal regulator ICs often 
>need bypass capacitors on input an/or output to keep them from becomming 
>oscillators.
>
>Oscillation in the IF system that has the filter that rejects the 
>opposite sideband? One of the only stages that is actually used in both 
>TX and RX.
>
>Multiple tones coming out of a single BFO? If you try opposite sideband 
>or different mode that would change it or make it go away, if that were 
>the source.
>
>What band? Any band you operate on or just one? What about into a 50 ohm 
>terminator instead of an antenna? Do you always operate on the same 
>frequency? Maybe it is an external source. Try changing frequency. Maybe 
>a spur from one of the oscillators in the rig (related to idea of 
>multiple tones from the BFO.)
>
>DE N6KB
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:54:31 -0400
>From: Richards <jruing at ameritech.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Comparison of TS-590S to Omni VII
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
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>Good question.   Not sure I am quite prepared to answer that, as I am 
>just getting used to it, and still exploring how it works.
>
>Here are a couple of preliminary observations:
>
>	REMEMBER... THESE ARE HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE USAGE
>	NOTES, NOT TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS.
>
>________________________________________________________
>THINGS THAT ARE EASIER TO LEARN OR DO
>ON THE Omni VII THAN ON THE TS-590S
>________________________________________________________
>
>1)   The layout of the front panel controls is very different.   The The 
>Omni VII is easier to figure out and the buttons are easier to find and 
>read.
>
>	A)  The Omni VII has fewer buttons - the TS-590s a LOT more buttons. 
>That, alone, makes it harder to find what you need, because there are 
>just plain more buttons to sort through.
>
>		NOTE--having more buttons means more features are
>		accessible from the front panel... but that does not mean
>		the Omni VII suffers in comparison.  TenTec really considered
>		what functions to make available on the front panel buttons,
>		and the stuff you wanna change quickly during a QSO are
>		all available on the Omni VII - similarly for the TS-590s, but
>		the Kenwood rig has even more functions you can access via
>		the front panel, but these access functions you do not
>		generally access most of the time.   So the Omni VII panel is
>		less cluttered, with fewer buttons, but that just means it
>		has only the good stuff up front.
>
>	B)  The Omni VII buttons are just a little larger then the Kenwood 
>buttons.  This makes them easier to see and use.
>
>	C)  The Omni VII has just two rows of function buttons, one above and 
>one below the main screen.   It is easier to read them going from left 
>to right all in a line, whereas the TS-590s has way MORE buttons and 
>they are clustered in groups.   THIS IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
>
>		NOTE -- this is NOT a deal breaker.   But the topic of the
>		essay is "which rig is easier to learn to use."
>
>	D)  The Omni VII has some meaningful space between each of the buttons 
>- black space - while the TS-590s has less space, and there is writing 
>in much of that space, putting way more lettering on the face.  It is 
>just plain harder to read and identify each button's function.
>
>	E)  The Omni VII dual purpose buttons all have the two functions 
>labeled on the button, itself, where the TS-590s labels one-purpose on 
>the button, and the secondary purpose is written on the panel, between 
>it and the next button.  That alone, makes it harder to separate each 
>button and see what it does because there is just plain more writing, 
>i.e. more clutter, on the TS-590s screen.
>
>	F)  The Omni VII has a big square screen, whilst the Kenwood has a 
>smaller, rectangular screen.  I think it is easier to read the 
>information on the TT screen, because it is


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