[TenTec] ARRL Reviews

Rsoifer at aol.com Rsoifer at aol.com
Fri Sep 9 08:34:52 PDT 2011


Good pointt, Joel.  Even within the top group, there are big  differences 
in sub receivers, e.g. the Orion's is general coverage while the K3  is ham 
band only with better performance.  Ye pays yer money....
 
As for me, I bought a 75S-1 in the 1970s to use as a second receiver,the  
way we now use sub receivers.  It's still hooked up to the KWM-2, making up  
what I call an "S/line and a half," i.e. one transmitter with two  
receivers.  I hope my T-T rigs last as long.  Come to think of it, I  hope we do.
 
73 Ray
 
 
In a message dated 9/8/2011 6:49:35 P.M. GMT Standard Time,  
jrhallas at optonline.net writes:

Ray,Very  true, but keep in mind that the feature sets are different 
between the first  two groups. All the radios in the first group either have, or 
offer, a second  receiver. This was a major differentiator for me.If you 
don't want or need the  second receiver you can indeed get top notch performance 
from a radio in the  second group.73, Joel Hallas, W1ZR----- Original 
Message -----From:  Rsoifer at aol.comDate: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:16 
amSubject: Re: [TenTec]  ARRL ReviewsTo: tentec at contesting.com> Hi all,> > Since 
we're into  subjective impressions, I'll put on my flak > jacket and  > share 
 mine.> > Looking at Rob Sherwood's table, the top six receivers  (FT-5000, 
> K3,  > Perseus, Flex 5000, Orion I and II) look pretty  much > 
indistinguishable.   One > spec is a little better,  another a little worse.  Then 
there is > a small  step > down  to the next level (Eagle, Flex 3000, etc.)  
Those are > almost  as  good, > and generally less expensive.  They perform 
about as  well as th
e > top  group > in all but the most demanding  situations, and represent > 
excellent value  for > money.> >  Older radios generally rank lower in the 
table, but as has been > said  by  > others, are just as good as when we 
bought them.  I have  fun > with my  KWM-2 as > well as my Orion II.> > 73 Ray  
W2RS> > > > > > > In a message dated 9/8/2011 1:39:10  P.M. GMT Standard 
Time,  > cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net writes:> >  Perfect!  Absolutely perfect. 
Kudos to you, good  Sir!> > Kim  N5OP> > At 05:59 AM 9/8/2011, you wrote:> >I 
offer  three  personal observations on the new radio - > receiver list  >  
debate:> >> >         1)   As  new  radios come to market, they may (should) 
be> >     expected to perform better than older models.     This> >         
sort of quality attrition   happens in most all fields of> >           
endeavor.  New models outpace older ones.    But...>  >> >         2)  No matter 
how   much better a new radio is compared to> >       your  old rig, ... 
your old radio does 
not suddenly  start> >   performing worse.  It is  still the radio  it 
always was.> >> >       3)  These  receiver rankings are sorted only by  
close-in> >     third order intercept  specifications.    Some of the lower> >      
 rated radios appear to  have superior or equivalent  ratings> >       on 
other  specs.> >> >> >Therefore,   I don't feel bad that my Omni  VII was 
once rated > one of the>  >best receivers when it was released in  '07, but has 
fallen a >  couple of> >places on these receiver rating  lists.   It  
performs the same > today as> >it did back  then.   I  have not lost any ground, 
nor have I > been set> >back,  just  because the Eagle, or the TX-590s  have 
better > close-in   third> >order intercept specifications.   I expect my  
new  TX-590s to > have better> >numbers... as does the new TT  Eagle.    My 
Omni VII has not > lost any> >ground - the  others just pushed the  envelope 
out a little > farther, but>  >the Omni VII is just as good as it  always 
was.  
Same  for the > Orion II> >and other rigs.   No one took a step  backward.> 
>> >I suspect this take could  explain why so many  Collins owners > 
continue to> >exhibit tremendous pride  and  experience such enjoyment with those> 
>vintage rigs.    They  are the same great radios they always > were, 
despite>  >the fact newer,  improved radios have come along.> >>  >Besides, these 
receiver test  charts are of limited utility as >  they are> >sorted for 
one, albeit  important, factor.  But,  this > overlooks, and> >overshadows, 
the fact  some of the  "lesser" radios have > superior figures> >and better   
specifications in other categories.   They may also > have>  >other features 
you might prefer.   Therefore, one needs  to  > look at ALL> >the 
specifications before making a purchase decision,  or  > before one> >decides his rig 
has been rendered   obsolete.> >> >Therefore, I am not losing any sleep 
over the  rating  my rig > currently>has.  I plan on shamelessly  enjoying my 
Omni VII  for > a v
ery long time -> >without  worry the new Eagle has a superior  close->  
>in-third-order-intercept score.   The Omni VII works  as  well > as it did> 
>when I purchased it a couple years  back.>  >> >Besides, I figure I have a 
limited budget, and good  enough  is just> >that... good enough.> >> >This is 
just MY   take, anyway... your mileage may differ for various> >multiple   
reasons.> >> >------------------> >Happy  Trails.>  >> 
>=======================  Richards / K8JHR    =========================> >> >On 9/2/2011 23:49, 
Ron Castro   wrote:> > > How true!  There is no scientific correlation  
between  > numbers > published on> > > the page of a  magazine and what is 
actually  coming out of > your speaker >  or> > > headphones.  If they correct  the 
numbers it won't  improve > the > > performance of> > > your  radio  at  
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