[TenTec] Re. [Ten Tec] Grounds and balanced fed verticals

[Carl Moreschi]

Loss due to dielectric loss tangent (tan) can be very important.

This term is proportional to frequency, so the higher you go, the

more likely it will dominate overall loss (metal loss is only

proportional to SQRT of frequency).



Some of the power that is fed into a transmission line is lost because

of its resistance. This effect is called ohmic or resistive loss. Another

effect called dielectric loss, adds to the losses caused by resistance.

Dielectric loss is caused when the insulating material inside the

transmission line absorbs energy from the alternating electric field

and converts it to heat (see dielectric heating).



Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Dr.
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com

On 1/25/2012 10:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 1/25/2012 5:59 PM, Carl Moreschi wrote:
>> he reason open wire line has less loss is that the dielectrics for true open wire line is air.
>
> FALSE!  It's the ratio between the RESISTANCE and the IMPEDANCE of the
> line.  High impedance lines result in lower current for the same power,
> and below UHF, virtually ALL loss in a transmission line is I squared R
> loss in the conductors.
>
> The only time that dielectric loss matters at HF (or even VHF) is when
> the dielectric is WET.  Window line exhibits high dielectric loss when
> it gets wet. Coax exhibits high dielectric loss when the INSIDE of the
> coax gets wet (and the copper  corrodes, which increases the resistance,
> which increases the loss.
>
> 73, Jim Brown K9YC
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