[TenTec] Orion 2 situation

Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP Rick at DJ0IP.de
Mon Jul 1 12:45:33 EDT 2013


There is too much competition for knob-less radios, Denton.
Besides Flex, there are half a dozen other companies producing good SDR
radios here.

It's nice to dream but keep in mind, the more gizmos you add to a radio, the
higher the cost and the greater the chance of something breaking.  Also, the
cost of ownership goes way up due to repair bills.  

One thing Ten-Tec needs to do is grow its market share outside of the US.
This will get the volumes up.
So far they have failed to accomplish that.
One of the reasons is, it's too difficult for a local distributor to support
and repair the rigs if they are too complex.
They need to keep it modular and supply the foreign distributors with a set
of spares so they can perform repairs locally.

I see Ten-Tec's niche in building a large box, great performing radio with a
modest set of features, and keeping it under $5K.
The radio to beat is going to be the TS-990.
Icom and Yaesu are "has beens" in the up-scale market.
They urgently need to come out with something better and for a lot less
money than what they currently cost.

Someone said it earlier: the money is in the low end.
The company I work for makes some outstanding products but they really only
help keep our image up.
We stay in business by selling a high volume of low-tech stuff for under
$100 to the masses.

73
Rick, DJ0IP


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of denton
sprague
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 6:13 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion 2 situation

My take.
Dvi/hdmi for external displays..
Direct keyboard entry or keyboard/mouse/computer interface with bluetooth
capability Built in antenna analyzer remote front panel If out socket

I would love to see TT bring back a refined Pegasus!

On Jul 1, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick, I think that's exactly what they'll do.  OPTIONAL 2nd rx will 
> also keep the entry price down.
> 
> It needs a big display though.  That's a main advantage of the Orion 
> over the K3.
> 
> To compete favorably with the K3 and differentiate their offering, 
> Ten-Tec needs to stick with a big display and lots of knobs.
> 
> Barry N1EU.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
wrote:
> 
>> Geoff, the sky is falling!  Didn't you notice?  ;-)
>> 
>> Dunno why people always try to speculate more out of a message than 
>> what the originator put into it.
>> 
>> My guess (and I have absolutely no information on this, just a guess):
>>  <> Double-Eagle RX
>>  <> Eagle TX
>>  <> Orion Features for most other stuff, addressing all of the 
>> complaints people had about the Eagle, such as not enough filter 
>> slots, no band stacking register, etc.
>> 
>> I'm sure they can tweak another few dB of DR out of it, though it is 
>> already good enough.
>> 
>> NOW HERE'S WHAT WOULD BE GREAT:  Offer it with a single RX and an 
>> optional 2nd RX, with a field-upgrade from 1x to 2x RX if someone 
>> wants to order it later.  Seemed to work great for Elecraft!
>> 
>> "Modular" is key to having a successful product.
>> The customer pays for what he wants and needs (or for what he can 
>> afford right now), but is not stuck with his decision forever.
>> 
>> 73
>> Rick, DJ0IP
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Geoffrey S.
>> Mendelson
>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 3:48 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion 2 situation
>> 
>> On 7/1/2013 4:39 PM, leen3lpj wrote:
>> 
>>>         Lets just hope the message could have been put out better .
>> 
>> What they did say:
>> 
>> 1. No more O2's.
>> 
>> 2. It was unplanned.
>> 
>> 3. They have enough spare parts to provide the level of support they 
>> have provided in the past.
>> 
>> 4. No new radio ready for announcement.
>> 
>> 
>> Seems pretty clear and simple to me.
>> 
>> Everything else is speculation by people who little or no information.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Geoff.
>> 
>> --
>> Geoffrey S. Mendelson,  N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 
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