[TenTec] Brand Loyalty

Sat Jun 15 18:19:42 EDT 2013

We are already paying for it.  Our bands are full of lids with wide signals
that sound horrendous.

Mic Gain:  Full Speed Ahead
Processor Gain: Full Speed Ahead
Etc.

Having said that, I was then and am now against incentive licensing.
I worked hard to earn privileges and suddenly they were taken away.
This is wrong.
Of course I upgraded and got them back, but the concept of taking them away
was wrong.

It is not that hard to motivate people to do more of anything.
You just have to be creative and use your brain.
Of course many people's brains are dormant these days.

73
Rick, DJ0IP

-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Arthur
Lewis
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:55 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty

Dave,

You are right on. The idea of incentive licensing was to promote a higher
level of radio knowledge, but I guess that was lost. Now the tests are made
to get as many people on the air as quickly as possible. Somewhere down the
road we will all pay for this easy entry.

I am 76 and I will also be out of the way soon.

73 de Art WA8VSJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <d.e.warnick at comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty

>
>
> Time for one of my favorite rants.
>
> I miss the novice bands. It's not about CW vs. Phone. It's about giving 
> new hams a set of frequencies with reduced privileges where new hams and 
> experienced hams could be sure to connect. I learned a lot from the old 
> timers on those novice bands with reduced power, before I was allowed to 
> move on to everywhere. Many of us earned our stripes there and learned to 
> listen and operate correctly.
>
> I wish we could go back to an entry level license. It could be SSB if you 
> like, but limit power and frequency availibility for a mandatory year. Say

> 100 watts on the old novice CW frequencies and a matching set of phone 
> frequencies on 80, 40 & 15. A place for new guys to get their feet wet. 
> Yes, there would have to be tolerance and Elmering by those of us who are 
> now old timers.
>
> We've dummied down our tests and then opened up the whole world to those 
> who are not ready for that. It's not the fault of the new guy who hasn't 
> learned. The FCC took away the training ground
>
> Just my rant. That's OK, I'm 69 and will go away in time
>
> Thanks for the bandwidth .
>
> Oh, yes, Bob. I loved the story. You always have great input and info. 
> Maybe there is something to having been at it a long time. And I am happy 
> with the audio on my Omni VII & Orion II & still learning from others
>
> 73
>
> Dave
>
> WA3F
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Reed Krenn" <reed.krenn at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:49:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty
>
> I think I'll go buy a new computer so my emails will look better.....
>
> Reed / WW3A
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de> 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, "Joe Ham" is alive and well and reproducing at a faster rate than we
>> are!
>> (hi)
>>
>> Lovely story, Bob!
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>> McGraw
>> - K4TAX
>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 6:01 AM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty
>>
>> Recently a close friend and one that is on the frequency where myself and
>> several others settle to "rag chew" on a very regular or daily basis 
>> stated
>> that he may sell the radio he had been using as he wasn't satisfied with
>> the
>>
>> audio. He was using his Omni VII and a 705 mike and dipole antenna. One
>> day he announced to the group that he had sold his Omni VII and had
>> purchased a brand XX/model radio. {The actual brand & model is not
>> important here.} Over the next two weeks he used the new radio on the 
>> air.
>> The "rag chew" group made clear and definitive statements that the new
>> brand
>> XX radio had much better audio than the Omni VII. He "settled" on the
>> suggested adjustments that were offered for that model and continued 
>> daily
>> to join in the "rag chew" sessions. Frequently he was honored with the
>> comment "that new radio sure sounds better than the Omni VII" type 
>> reports.
>>
>> After two weeks, he couldn't stand the pressure and announced to the 
>> group
>> "well fellows you are all full of crap, as I've been using the same Omni
>> VII, same mike and same antenna for the past two weeks. There has been
>> and
>>
>> is no new radio". Many of the fellows were totally embarrassed and 
>> grossly
>> had proverbial "egg on their faces" as they had boldly and lavishly
>> complemented the "alleged new radio" and its audio quality.
>>
>> Frankly, being in on the joke from the start and hearing these exchanges,
>> when he disclosed the prank, I laughed until I thought my trousers would
>> need laundry service.
>>
>> I suppose this goes to somewhat prove that folks give reports seemingly
>> based on radio model and brand and not of actual and accurate signal
>> evaluation. In other words, they aren't capable of hearing and reporting
>> any real or significant difference, although they claim to hear dramatic
>> improvements when indeed there were none.
>>
>> The general word is "HYPE" that feeds one's ego.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Richards" <jrichards at k8jhr.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 5:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Speech Processor
>>
>>
>> > Personally, Gary, after reading your comments over the past couple of
>> > years, and reviewing your setup procedure, I am confident you have
>> managed
>>
>> > to ring the most out of the rig and processor, pushing it to the max,
>> > while maintaining a narrow, clean, and intelligible signal.
>> >
>>
>>
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