[TenTec] 160 meters, ten ted 238 tuner, part two

k6jek k6jek at comcast.net
Thu Oct 31 21:47:40 EDT 2013


Yes Jim,

But if we draw the Venn diagram of RF Chokes and BALUN's I speculate there is something in the overlap, is there not?

Jon

On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 10/31/2013 2:39 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
>> A BALUN and an RF Choke are synonymous.  They are the exact same thing
>> (except for the connection terminals).
> 
> This is TOTALLY WRONG!
> 
> I know of nearly a dozen VERY different things that are described by the word "balun."
> 
> An RF choke is an inductor, and it some frequency it will resonate with its own stray C.
> 
> A coil of coax is an inductive common mode choke -- the fact that it is inductive makes it a LOUSY common mode choke. It is often called a balun.
> 
> A coil of coax wound through lossy ferrite cores is a RESISTIVE common mode choke -- resistive because the ferrite core is lossy, because it resonates with its own stray C, and the choke has been wound to place the resonance  in the range of frequencies where we need a choke.
> 
> A bunch of ferrite beads on a piece of coax is a common mode choke. Most such "string of beads" chokes are inductive, which makes them lousy common mode chokes. The original W2DU common mode choke that he called a current balun used 100 or more  #73 ferrite beads, which are made only in a size that fits small diameter coax (RG58), and which DO  have the desired low Q (very lossy) resonance in the HF bands. These original W2DU chokes are GOOD common mode chokes.
> 
> A half wave of coax has used as part of the  feed of monoband antennas, and that is called a balun.
> 
> There are arrays of common mode chokes (series/parallel) that used to transform impedance and are called baluns.
> 
> There are multi-turn transformers that are called baluns.
> 
> There are active electronic products that drive video onto CAT5 cable that are called baluns.
> 
> All of these are VERY different from each other. None of them are an RF Choke.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
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