[TenTec] Orion I no tx/rx

Mike LaRoche barreherbalist at gmail.com
Sat Aug 9 21:52:01 EDT 2014


Evening Gents, finally got around to opening her up, went through all the
steps suggested and works perfect!!! Thanks to everyone for the help and
support!!!


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike, do a re-flash, not just a reset.
>
> Barry N1EU
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Mike LaRoche <barreherbalist at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'll do the cleaning and reset tonight and check back with the results.
> > Thanks to everyone for your input!!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > There's a good photo of the back of the front panel at
> > > http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=orion_batt1.jpg
> > clearly
> > > showing the two ribbon cables and the yellow battery about 6 inches to
> > the
> > > left of them.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Also, if you do disconnect those connectors, be careful to gently
> nudge
> > > > them up by the connector body and don't simply yank on the ribbon
> cable
> > > or
> > > > you'll risk separating the cable from its connector.  Those ribbon
> > cable
> > > > terminations and strain reliefs are inherently not very strong.
> > > >
> > > > Barry N1EU
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I tend to agree with Carl.  It doesn't sound like a classic A9 power
> > > >> distrib board capacitor issue with symptoms of rebooting esp during
> > > xmit.
> > > >> It also doesn't sound like a classic battery issue with symptoms of
> > lost
> > > >> rig configuration.  However, if it was me, I would probably go ahead
> > and
> > > >> replace the battery while you have the front panel opened (see
> > > >> http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery )
> > > >>
> > > >> Before you do all that, you might consider reflashing the firmware
> > > >> (assuming the rig is connected to your computer) and see if that
> > helps.
> > > >>
> > > >> 73, Barry N1EU
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3 at earthlink.net
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> yes.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > > >>> 58 Hogwood Rd
> > > >>> Louisburg, NC 27549
> > > >>> www.n4py.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 7/10/2014 10:19 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Carl, do you mean the ribbon cable connectors?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Barry N1EU
> > > >>>> <http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Carl Moreschi<
> n4py3 at earthlink.net>
> > > >>>>  wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  This sounds like the classic dirty connector behind the front
> panel
> > > >>>>> problem.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There's a couple of connectors with about 200 connections on it
> > > behind
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>>>> Orion front panel. There's so many connections that you can get
> > > almost
> > > >>>>> any
> > > >>>>> symptom from this. These connections should have been gold but
> they
> > > are
> > > >>>>> not.  So they need to be cleaned.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It's actually not very difficult to get to.  You remove the front
> > > >>>>> panel.
> > > >>>>> Then unplug the big connectors and spray them thoroughly with a
> > good
> > > >>>>> electrical contact cleaner.  Then, while they are wet, plug and
> > > unplug
> > > >>>>> them
> > > >>>>> about 20 times to clean them.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I had this on my Orion when it had intermittent symptoms and this
> > > >>>>> completely fixed it.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> After doing this do a complete reset as follows:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 1) Power off Orion.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2) Power On holding the VFO B LCK button.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 3) Continue holding LCK button until the radio says "Battery
> > > Failure".
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 4) Power off Orion.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 5) Power on holding "Main RX/TX" button.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 6) Continue holding this button until the radio says reset
> > complete.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 7) Do not clear any settings when asked to do so.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 8) Power the Orion off and back on one more time.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > > >>>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
> > > >>>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
> > > >>>>> www.n4py.com
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 7/10/2014 10:00 AM, Mike LaRoche wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>  I signed up for this mailing list with the hope of never having
> to
> > > ask
> > > >>>>>> help
> > > >>>>>> with a problem....alas this is not to be the case....
> > > >>>>>> A couple weeks ago I turned on the Orion and it went through the
> > > >>>>>> normal
> > > >>>>>> start-up and I first thought "wow the band is quiet" however the
> > > >>>>>> scope was
> > > >>>>>> flat, no rx, keyed the mike, no tx. After a few frantic minutes
> > > >>>>>> checking
> > > >>>>>> all connections and making sure I didn't change something on the
> > > radio
> > > >>>>>> suddenly it started working FB. About a week later the same
> thing
> > > >>>>>> happened
> > > >>>>>> but this time it didn't come around on it's own, a few minutes
> > after
> > > >>>>>> performing a master reset it started working again (WHEW!) A few
> > day
> > > >>>>>> ago
> > > >>>>>> the same thing happened only this time I'm not so lucky and so
> far
> > > >>>>>> hasn't
> > > >>>>>> worked. A search of the archives found some info on power supply
> > > >>>>>> issues
> > > >>>>>> with a similar condition but switching power supplies didn't
> > help. I
> > > >>>>>> had
> > > >>>>>> not operated the radio between the times the problems occurred.
> > I'm
> > > >>>>>> hoping
> > > >>>>>> one of the many gurus here has the answer!
> > > >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
> > > >>>>>> 73
> > > >>>>>> Mike ND1W
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