[TenTec] Orion I no tx/rx

[Barry N1EU]

Congrats Mike, that's great news and nice to hear we can help/encourage
each other to dig in and fix things!

73, Barry N1EU


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Mike LaRoche <barreherbalist at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Evening Gents, finally got around to opening her up, went through all the
> steps suggested and works perfect!!! Thanks to everyone for the help and
> support!!!
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike, do a re-flash, not just a reset.
> >
> > Barry N1EU
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Mike LaRoche <barreherbalist at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'll do the cleaning and reset tonight and check back with the results.
> > > Thanks to everyone for your input!!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > There's a good photo of the back of the front panel at
> > > > http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=orion_batt1.jpg
> > > clearly
> > > > showing the two ribbon cables and the yellow battery about 6 inches
> to
> > > the
> > > > left of them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Also, if you do disconnect those connectors, be careful to gently
> > nudge
> > > > > them up by the connector body and don't simply yank on the ribbon
> > cable
> > > > or
> > > > > you'll risk separating the cable from its connector.  Those ribbon
> > > cable
> > > > > terminations and strain reliefs are inherently not very strong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Barry N1EU
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I tend to agree with Carl.  It doesn't sound like a classic A9
> power
> > > > >> distrib board capacitor issue with symptoms of rebooting esp
> during
> > > > xmit.
> > > > >> It also doesn't sound like a classic battery issue with symptoms
> of
> > > lost
> > > > >> rig configuration.  However, if it was me, I would probably go
> ahead
> > > and
> > > > >> replace the battery while you have the front panel opened (see
> > > > >> http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery )
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Before you do all that, you might consider reflashing the firmware
> > > > >> (assuming the rig is connected to your computer) and see if that
> > > helps.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 73, Barry N1EU
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Carl Moreschi <
> n4py3 at earthlink.net
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> yes.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > > > >>> 58 Hogwood Rd
> > > > >>> Louisburg, NC 27549
> > > > >>> www.n4py.com
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 7/10/2014 10:19 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Carl, do you mean the ribbon cable connectors?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Barry N1EU
> > > > >>>> <http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Carl Moreschi<
> > n4py3 at earthlink.net>
> > > > >>>>  wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>  This sounds like the classic dirty connector behind the front
> > panel
> > > > >>>>> problem.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> There's a couple of connectors with about 200 connections on it
> > > > behind
> > > > >>>>> the
> > > > >>>>> Orion front panel. There's so many connections that you can get
> > > > almost
> > > > >>>>> any
> > > > >>>>> symptom from this. These connections should have been gold but
> > they
> > > > are
> > > > >>>>> not.  So they need to be cleaned.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> It's actually not very difficult to get to.  You remove the
> front
> > > > >>>>> panel.
> > > > >>>>> Then unplug the big connectors and spray them thoroughly with a
> > > good
> > > > >>>>> electrical contact cleaner.  Then, while they are wet, plug and
> > > > unplug
> > > > >>>>> them
> > > > >>>>> about 20 times to clean them.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I had this on my Orion when it had intermittent symptoms and
> this
> > > > >>>>> completely fixed it.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> After doing this do a complete reset as follows:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 1) Power off Orion.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2) Power On holding the VFO B LCK button.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 3) Continue holding LCK button until the radio says "Battery
> > > > Failure".
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 4) Power off Orion.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 5) Power on holding "Main RX/TX" button.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 6) Continue holding this button until the radio says reset
> > > complete.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 7) Do not clear any settings when asked to do so.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 8) Power the Orion off and back on one more time.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > > > >>>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
> > > > >>>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
> > > > >>>>> www.n4py.com
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On 7/10/2014 10:00 AM, Mike LaRoche wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>  I signed up for this mailing list with the hope of never
> having
> > to
> > > > ask
> > > > >>>>>> help
> > > > >>>>>> with a problem....alas this is not to be the case....
> > > > >>>>>> A couple weeks ago I turned on the Orion and it went through
> the
> > > > >>>>>> normal
> > > > >>>>>> start-up and I first thought "wow the band is quiet" however
> the
> > > > >>>>>> scope was
> > > > >>>>>> flat, no rx, keyed the mike, no tx. After a few frantic
> minutes
> > > > >>>>>> checking
> > > > >>>>>> all connections and making sure I didn't change something on
> the
> > > > radio
> > > > >>>>>> suddenly it started working FB. About a week later the same
> > thing
> > > > >>>>>> happened
> > > > >>>>>> but this time it didn't come around on it's own, a few minutes
> > > after
> > > > >>>>>> performing a master reset it started working again (WHEW!) A
> few
> > > day
> > > > >>>>>> ago
> > > > >>>>>> the same thing happened only this time I'm not so lucky and so
> > far
> > > > >>>>>> hasn't
> > > > >>>>>> worked. A search of the archives found some info on power
> supply
> > > > >>>>>> issues
> > > > >>>>>> with a similar condition but switching power supplies didn't
> > > help. I
> > > > >>>>>> had
> > > > >>>>>> not operated the radio between the times the problems
> occurred.
> > > I'm
> > > > >>>>>> hoping
> > > > >>>>>> one of the many gurus here has the answer!
> > > > >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > >>>>>> 73
> > > > >>>>>> Mike ND1W
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