[TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec rigs
Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP
Rick at DJ0IP.de
Thu Feb 27 18:29:06 EST 2014
Please don't include me in that scenario.
You are very welcome to walk in my shadow, and I will gladly walk in yours.
We need every ham we can get or we are going to die out.
IMO, one of the reasons that you don't hear of Ten-Tec radios on
DX-peditions is because Ten-Tec has always refused to sponsor them.
Elecraft has always been a big sponsor of DX-peditions and that's why most
expeditions take them along.
In my club, which launches some of the world's largest DX-peditions, we have
standards for what people can take along on the DX-peditions. We learned
years ago that if you have too much variety, it causes more confusion than
good. So we learned to standardize. That way no operator is confronted
with a rig he doesn't know. My club made the Kenwood TS-850 its standard
and that lasted for 10 years, with the occasional FT-1000 being accepted.
In recent years (past 5 or 6) they have been replaced by the K3.
Many of our members use Ten-Tec transceivers at home but do not take them on
the expeditions. Too exotic.
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Vohland
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec
I realize that compared to you guys, I'm not worthy to walk in your shadows
but I do read all the discussions with interest and learn much. I have owned
and do have TenTec products and for the most part have been pleased. I have
wondered however, why we never see any DXexpeditions using TenTec equipment?
> From: resluder at yahoo.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:39:28 -0500
> To: wa4njy at yahoo.com; wa4njy at yahoo.com; tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with
> Excellent analogies.
> On February 27, 2014 11:22:16 AM EST, Ed Purvis <wa4njy at yahoo.com> wrote:
> |The Eagle seems to be a Ferrari with roll-up windows.
> |The OMNI VII (had one) is a Mustang with nice options.
> |Best analogy I can muster now.
> | From: R. Eric Sluder-W9WLW <resluder at yahoo.com>
> |To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> |Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:32 AM
> |Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit
> |with TenTec rigs
> |You won't find a simpler rig to use that rates high on Rob's list for
> |receiver performance, and that is the Eagle. It's so simple, that
> |when I got mine I actually went through "Knob Withdrawal" in that I
> |started second guessing if I made the right decision. You look at
> |the radio, and it does what you want it to do, but has so few buttons
> |or knobs that you ask yourself, "did I over pay for this box?" It
> |just goes to show you how programmed we've become with the marketing
> |hype in Ham Radio.
> |The Eagle isn't for everyone, but it's a great mobile, or great home
> |based radio if you realize, it's not designed to be a contest class
> |radio even though the receiver is contest class grade. It's a top
> |notch radio inside a box with simple controls for those who might use
> |it in an RV, or mobile in a car, and for rag chewers, general ops.
> |- R. Eric Sluder
> |> From: Brian Carling <bcarling at cfl.rr.com>
> |>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> |>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:23 AM
> |>Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with
> |TenTec rigs
> |>The Omni VII discussion is very informative. I need encouragement
> |it comes to accepting the ergonomics of most modern rigs. The FT450
> |felt like I was burned with its horrible menu system. I actually
> |prefer the FT857D... But anything like the TS590 is just not going to
> |work here. The OMNI VII arrangement sounds far more practical than
> |most menu controlled rigs.
> |>Best regards - Bry Carling AF4K
> |>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com> wrote:
> |>> On 2/26/2014 6:13 PM, R. Eric Sluder - W9WLW wrote:
> |>> I see where even on the new and highly touted TS-590 you do some
> |serious button pushing too.
> |>> I have a TS-590 and the Omni VII in my shack.
> |>> I like both radios, but I prefer operating the
> |>> Omni VII. It is not so much the multiple pressing
> |>> of buttons, as the fact the display only shows
> |>> one menu item at a time, so you either press
> |>> several buttons to adjust several things, or you
> |>> must work the multi knob and scroll through like
> |>> 87 or more items sequentially to get what you want,
> |>> which is NOT as quick and easy as looking at a
> |>> list of 18 or 19 items at once, and quickly scrolling
> |>> to the one you want. Remembering the menu item
> |>> numbers on the 590 is not as easy as just looking
> |>> at a menu list and seeing what you want among
> |>> the rest all at once. (hard to describe...hopefully
> |>> you get the gist. )
> |>> menu item at a time
> |>> I will send Brian a comparison piece I wrote
> |>> that compares how stuff gets done with each
> |>> rig and maybe that will help him judge for
> |>> himself. It IS a valid inquiry!
> |>>> The single tree menu in the Omni VII software is sweet.... you're
> |not trying to go thru layers of menu settings.
> |>> Amen. The only way to get that sort of
> |>> convenience in setting features is to use
> |>> the ARCP-590 software. I really like the
> |>> Omni VII simple menu when I am in a hurry
> |>> like during a contest or when trying to catch
> |>> rare DX before the pile ensues, and I find
> |>> the Omni VII menu way easier to navigate in
> |>> a hurry like that. You have to use the ARCP
> |>> software to get anything close to a single
> |>> menu. The 590 has like 87 menu items
> |>> and the Omni VII about half that number
> |>> with 18 or 19 showing at any one time.
> |>> I like both radios, but the Omni is easier to
> |>> run, I think, than the 590.
> |>> The Omni VII buttons are larger, with more space
> |>> between them. The features you change most
> |>> encircle the main display. The concept is easy.
> |>> You press the feature you want, and adjust it with
> |>> the Multi Knob. That is the basic plan... select
> |>> and adjust. If you want to adjust another feature,
> |>> just select it by pressing its front panel button
> |>> and adjust the value with the multi knob.
> |>> Once you get onto that procedure, it all sorta works
> |>> the same way. (OK... there might be an exception
> |>> or two, but that is the gist of the process.)
> |>> Just MY take.
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