[TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S

Tue Jul 29 16:41:42 EDT 2014

Well, I pulled the trigger and decided to go with the Eagle. The only
Ten-Tec product I have ever used was a PM-1 or PM-2 back in the late
60's. 12 - 14 week wait according to Stan.

Thanks for all of the constructive input.

73 - Gary (KN0V)

On 7/7/14, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <RMcGraw at blomand.net> wrote:
> Yes, HRD 5.xxxx does have correct drivers for the Omni VII.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 6:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S
>
>
>> Bry, I suggest you contact the HRD people and ask them.
>> I have no idea whether they use 3rd party drivers or their own CAT
>> drivers.
>> They don't have much about Ver. 5 on their web site.
>> The least one could expect is a list of supported radios, but I couldn't
>> find any.
>>
>> Most of their information is targeted at HRD Ver. 6.
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Brian
>> Carling
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 2:33 AM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S
>>
>> Sorry to digress but I have similar questions...
>>
>> Will HRD 5 work with my Omni VII arriving this week?
>>
>> I'm not sure if it's coming with an interface cable for my Win8 laptop.
>>
>> Was the serial interface something standard that comes with an OM7?
>>
>> Best regards - Bry Carling AF4K
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 3:27 PM, G Reichow <wa0yle12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Rick, this is the kind of information I'm looking for and all
>>> the responses so far have been very helpful. I read this reflector
>>> every day and it always has good info.
>>>
>>> Gary - KN0V
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Eagle has a slightly better receiver, especially on the higher
>>>> bands.
>>>> The ergonomics of the Kenwood are more typical of what most people
>>>> are familiar with.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately Omnirig does not support the Eagle so you may find that
>>>> some contest logging packages are not fully compatible with it.  They
>>>> will probably still work in Orion2 mode, but with a couple of bugs.
>>>>
>>>> The 3rd order IMD of the Kenwood is slightly better than the Eagle,
>>>> but the
>>>> 590 has broadband noise problems.  The Eagle has none.  This makes
>>>> the Eagle more suitable for using at multi TX sites.
>>>>
>>>> The 590 'had' a problem with ALC power spikes on TX.  If you buy a
>>>> new one, the problem has been fixed.  If you buy a used one, it
>>>> probably has this problem.  This caused many of the modern linear
>>>> amplifiers to trigger to fault.  This is very annoying, but Kenwood
>>>> will fix it for free if you are the original owner.  Not sure of
>>>> their policy for used rigs, but I have heard it costs $200 for the mod.
>>>>
>>>> Several people who have used both radios, including members of the
>>>> Ten-Tec
>>>> group(s) preferred the ergonomics of the Kenwood better.
>>>> IMO this only makes a difference when you have several rigs and
>>>> switch back and forth a lot.
>>>> If you only use one rig, you quickly become accustomed to just about
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>> Neither rig has band data available on the rear panel for switching
>>>> external switches such as antennas or band filters.  If you want
>>>> that, you have to spend a lot more money on the radio.
>>>>
>>>> For running a linear amp in CW, the Kenwood has adjustable TX-delay
>>>> and hang time delay, each of the proper lengths (if you set the menu
>>>> parameters correctly).  The Eagle does not.  It is about 5mS too slow
>>>> on TX-delay and has no hang delay at all.  Unless you have a full QSK
>>>> linear, you will need to purchase the model 318 amp keyer - or for
>>>> about $10 you can build it yourself. OR use an external keyer which
>>>> incorporates adjustable keying delays, such as the WinKey - which is
>>>> probably a good idea anyway if you are into contesting.
>>>>
>>>> FINALLY:  Ten-Tec owners are nicer people.  If you don't believe
>>>> that, just ask us!  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> For my current needs, the Eagle is the best radio in the world.
>>>> Your mileage may vary.
>>>>
>>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of G
>>>> Reichow
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 5:16 PM
>>>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>      I am in the market for a new radio. Originally I was looking at
>>>> the
>>>> FTDX-1200 and the TS-590S as both of those are within my budget.
>>>> Now, with the mega-sale, the Eagle is within my budget as  well. I
>>>> was leaning toward the 590S due to its receiver. So I guess it comes
>>>> down to the
>>>> 590 or Eagle. My primary interests are dx'ing and contests.
>>>> Constructive input and thoughts are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Tks - Gary (KN0V)
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