[TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S

G Reichow wa0yle12 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 29 16:48:07 EDT 2014


Well, I pulled the trigger and decided to go with the Eagle. The only
Ten-Tec product I have ever used was a PM-1 or PM-2 back in the late
60's. 12 - 14 week wait according to Stan.

Thanks for all of the constructive input.

73 - Gary (KN0V)

On 7/29/14, G Reichow <wa0yle12 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I pulled the trigger and decided to go with the Eagle. The only
> Ten-Tec product I have ever used was a PM-1 or PM-2 back in the late
> 60's. 12 - 14 week wait according to Stan.
>
> Thanks for all of the constructive input.
>
> 73 - Gary (KN0V)
>
>
> On 7/7/14, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <RMcGraw at blomand.net> wrote:
>> Yes, HRD 5.xxxx does have correct drivers for the Omni VII.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
>> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 6:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S
>>
>>
>>> Bry, I suggest you contact the HRD people and ask them.
>>> I have no idea whether they use 3rd party drivers or their own CAT
>>> drivers.
>>> They don't have much about Ver. 5 on their web site.
>>> The least one could expect is a list of supported radios, but I couldn't
>>> find any.
>>>
>>> Most of their information is targeted at HRD Ver. 6.
>>>
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Brian
>>> Carling
>>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 2:33 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S
>>>
>>> Sorry to digress but I have similar questions...
>>>
>>> Will HRD 5 work with my Omni VII arriving this week?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if it's coming with an interface cable for my Win8 laptop.
>>>
>>> Was the serial interface something standard that comes with an OM7?
>>>
>>> Best regards - Bry Carling AF4K
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 3:27 PM, G Reichow <wa0yle12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Rick, this is the kind of information I'm looking for and all
>>>> the responses so far have been very helpful. I read this reflector
>>>> every day and it always has good info.
>>>>
>>>> Gary - KN0V
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Eagle has a slightly better receiver, especially on the higher
>>>>> bands.
>>>>> The ergonomics of the Kenwood are more typical of what most people
>>>>> are familiar with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately Omnirig does not support the Eagle so you may find that
>>>>> some contest logging packages are not fully compatible with it.  They
>>>>> will probably still work in Orion2 mode, but with a couple of bugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 3rd order IMD of the Kenwood is slightly better than the Eagle,
>>>>> but the
>>>>> 590 has broadband noise problems.  The Eagle has none.  This makes
>>>>> the Eagle more suitable for using at multi TX sites.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 590 'had' a problem with ALC power spikes on TX.  If you buy a
>>>>> new one, the problem has been fixed.  If you buy a used one, it
>>>>> probably has this problem.  This caused many of the modern linear
>>>>> amplifiers to trigger to fault.  This is very annoying, but Kenwood
>>>>> will fix it for free if you are the original owner.  Not sure of
>>>>> their policy for used rigs, but I have heard it costs $200 for the
>>>>> mod.
>>>>>
>>>>> Several people who have used both radios, including members of the
>>>>> Ten-Tec
>>>>> group(s) preferred the ergonomics of the Kenwood better.
>>>>> IMO this only makes a difference when you have several rigs and
>>>>> switch back and forth a lot.
>>>>> If you only use one rig, you quickly become accustomed to just about
>>>>> anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither rig has band data available on the rear panel for switching
>>>>> external switches such as antennas or band filters.  If you want
>>>>> that, you have to spend a lot more money on the radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> For running a linear amp in CW, the Kenwood has adjustable TX-delay
>>>>> and hang time delay, each of the proper lengths (if you set the menu
>>>>> parameters correctly).  The Eagle does not.  It is about 5mS too slow
>>>>> on TX-delay and has no hang delay at all.  Unless you have a full QSK
>>>>> linear, you will need to purchase the model 318 amp keyer - or for
>>>>> about $10 you can build it yourself. OR use an external keyer which
>>>>> incorporates adjustable keying delays, such as the WinKey - which is
>>>>> probably a good idea anyway if you are into contesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> FINALLY:  Ten-Tec owners are nicer people.  If you don't believe
>>>>> that, just ask us!  ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> For my current needs, the Eagle is the best radio in the world.
>>>>> Your mileage may vary.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of G
>>>>> Reichow
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 5:16 PM
>>>>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>      I am in the market for a new radio. Originally I was looking at
>>>>> the
>>>>> FTDX-1200 and the TS-590S as both of those are within my budget.
>>>>> Now, with the mega-sale, the Eagle is within my budget as  well. I
>>>>> was leaning toward the 590S due to its receiver. So I guess it comes
>>>>> down to the
>>>>> 590 or Eagle. My primary interests are dx'ing and contests.
>>>>> Constructive input and thoughts are welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tks - Gary (KN0V)
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