[TenTec] The Next Flagship

Wed May 21 10:03:32 EDT 2014

Cecil,

I guess my answer there is, the skimmer is my 2nd RX.
Of course I've always worked assisted.
If you work unassisted, you don't have that luxury.

I found the Eagle to be the simplest to use transceiver I ever used in a
contest and although I never used them side by side, I would not say the
Eagle's front end crunches any earlier than the Orion.  It certainly was a
lot better than my OM6+ (I never had an INRAD filter in the 6+).

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)

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From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Cecil
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Next Flagship

Good discussion.

My only issue is I have a tendency to do more DXing and I don't consider the
Eagle a tool I would choose for that job.  I also press my DXing rig into
contest duty which is easily done...but not so much the other way around.

I guess for me I'm spoiled by the dual receive/VFO capability that I've had
with any rig I've owned for the last 20 years....it's hard to go back.  

I also own an Icom Pro III....and while it's a nice rig in my environment
(not Europe) it's relegated to 6M use and backup HF if the OII dies.  It's
also my grab and go rig.

Just another perspective...

Cecil
K5DL

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> On May 21, 2014, at 6:53 AM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de> wrote:
> 
> I would call the Eagle an entry-level contest grade transceiver.
> Not sure what to call the OM7.
> 
> Maybe the term "mid-range" is wrong.
> Let's say the mid-teens range ($1500).
> THAT'S the market Ten-Tec can address and hit the masses.
> 
> The target competitors are FT-1200 and TS-590.
> 
> The Eagle probably has too few features to be considered a masses radio.
> A masses radio needs to have enough filter slots to work all modes, 
> and it needs at least provision for an external scope, "ready to go".
> 
> For me, the Eagle is my contest radio for CW and occasionally SSB.
> It has the size to fit my type of operation, which is often portable, 
> working out of a camper.
> If I want to work AM or FM, I have another JA transceiver for that.
> Most people probably won't want to have 2 transceivers, so the box I 
> think we need must do it all.
> The Eagle does not.
> 
> Geoff, I like your proposal.
> My preference would be a dual bander (40/20) or even tribander (40/30/20).
> I would like one with very low current drain on RX so that it can be 
> run off of batteries.
> 
> However the cheap Chinese transceivers seem to have stirred that 
> segment up a lot, to the point it may not be possible to make any money
there.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
> N1EU
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:57 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Next Flagship
> 
> Doesn't Ten-Tec already have the mid-range handled with Eagle and Omni
VII?
> 
> Barry N1EU
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP
<Rick at dj0ip.de>wrote:
> 
>> GM Barry, (afternoon Geoff),
>> 
>> I was indeed speaking of the high-cost radios, not the K3.
>> In fact I gave the K3 as an example of a company doing it right. 
>> (modular)
>> 
>> Barry, I would ONLY agree with that if it is a second priority after 
>> the mid-range box.
>> I'm sure lots of people would buy the high end version of the Eagle 
>> but I am also sure 3x as many people would buy a mid-range box.
>> 
>> In the past, Icom offered an optional power supply module that would 
>> plug into some of its radios, such as the IC-740.
>> That made it a nice, self contained box for portable use.  I really 
>> liked that option because I used it portable quite a lot.
>> 
>> So how about an expansion slot which would accept either the power 
>> supply or the ATU?
>> And then have an expansion cabinet with the same type of slot.
>> This would give users a choice and enable to configure best for their 
>> own particular preference of operation.
>> 
>> As Bob pointed out, the money is in the masses but I don't think any 
>> US company can compete in the low end now and once the Chinese 
>> penetrate the market, it will be over for sure.  The mid-range is 
>> their juiciest alternative.
>> 
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Barry N1EU
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:06 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Next Flagship
>> 
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> The Flagship market is too small,
>>> 
>> 
>> If you're talking TS-990, IC-7800 and Flex 6700 I agree.  If you're 
>> talking K3, I don't.
>> 
>> For example, I don't see that it would be a big stretch for Ten-Tec 
>> to come out with an Eagle on steroids - more front panel real estate, 
>> bigger box, optional 2nd rx etc.
>> 
>> Ten-Tec has ALWAYS had a "flagship" that would compete with the best 
>> of them and I'd like to see them continue that tradition.
>> 
>> 73, Barry N1EU
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