[TenTec] The Next Flagship

[Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP]

My favorites are similar to Carl's:

1:  130 to 136 foot wire, fed in the middle with openwire
2:  Off-Center-Fed Dipole such as the one I currently use (see:
http://www.dj0ip.de/off-center-fed-dipole/80m-ocf/) 
3:  Inverted L, 130 to 136 ft. long as Carl described

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Moreschi
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:06 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Next Flagship

I also agree if I could only have one antenna it would be a 130 foot dipole
set up as an inverted V and fed with open wire line to an in shack tuner.
And my second choice is an end fed 130 wire in an inverted L with an outdoor
automatic tuner and coax from the tuner to the shack.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com

On 5/23/2014 4:57 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
> Jim, I can't agree.  Sorry.
> You are not on the same page as I am.
> You push a resonant antenna, but that's a monoband antenna.
> You sell the "all band dipole" much too short.
>
> YES you are correct about its many nulls on the high bands.  They are 
> definitely not as bad as you make it out to be.
> I've seen your current and past QTH (in Chicago).
> You are a lucky man.  Compliments for making best use of the space 
> available for an antenna farm - especially in Chicago!
>
> Many people, possibly most, can have just one single antenna at their QTH.
> They will never have what you have or have had in the past.
> Many use the non-resonant or openwire fed dipole - the one you say is 
> not a good antenna.
>
> You do it a big injustice to say it is a bad antenna.
> Many experts,  including W1ICP (Lew McCoy) and W4RNL (L.B. Cebik) have 
> said "if I could only have just one antenna, it would be the openwire 
> fed dipole."
>
> My own experience: go to CQWW DX Contest,  "All Time Records" (CW).
> Do a search on "DJ0IP".
> I'm on the list as an all time record holder (high power assisted) in 
> one European country, set using this antenna that you claim does not 
> work.  My record has stood for over 20 years.  You don't set records 
> with antennas which do not work.
>
> So yes, there are lots of better mono-band antennas, but I don't know 
> of any multiband antenna that works better.
> If you do, PLEASE share it with us.  I will gladly be proven wrong in 
> this case! (hi)
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Brown
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 6:45 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Next Flagship
>
> On 5/23/2014 3:06 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
>> I agree with all of that, but you leave one point out.  "Openwire."
>> As you well know, the impedance of an openwire dipole varies from 
>> band to band and can be all over the map, up to a couple thousand Ohms.
>
> Rick,
>
> I didn't leave it out at all -- it's one of the non-resonant antennas 
> I talked about. This is a lousy antenna, a bad idea. Yes, the Handbook 
> says it "works" on all bands. So does a light bulb. That "all band"
> dipole has a pattern that varies widely from band to band, with deep 
> nulls in some directions where there are stations you would like to work.
>
> The place for antenna match boxes is to make a dipole cut for 80CW 
> work on the phone band, to load a random long wire that ends in the 
> shack, to correct for a dipole that isn't quite the right length.
>
> I'm a big fan of fan dipoles, which are easy to build, which work 
> really well, and which have very predictable patterns. If you have 
> room for a 20M dipole, you can hang a 20/15/10 fan. Barry at Hypower 
> Antenna Company sells very nice loaded dipoles that also cover 30 and 
> 40 and can fit 80M into about 100 ft. That was my low band antenna in 
> Chicago. He makes a version for 160 and 80 with a fan element for 40 that
also works very well on 30M.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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