[TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7

Sat Jun 13 11:35:56 EDT 2015

 well called TT service again yesterday am…day before had filled out the return authorization form as per the RKR website but did not get anything back via email…

So the TT tech stated that RKR was having problems with the website….and he sent me an email with the return number….and then also had the following..

Item	Quantity	Description	Rate	Amount
TLH Service	1	Technician Labor Hours	110.00	110.00
Contact you w/ shipping costs.	1	 	0.00	0.00
Subtotal	110.00
Tax	10.73
Total	$120.73

Is TT now charging for a brief telephone consultation? I have called TT through the years and never had to pay a tech for phone consultation..

On Jun 11, 2015, at 6:15 PM, denton sprague <denton at oregontrail.net> wrote:

> called TT service this am…tech says its probably the logic board….send it in after securing an r-m-a number.
> was gonna send it in anyway for checkover and any upgrades…
> Wonder how long it will take TT to get back to me via email with the number?
> They used to say just sent it in to tech support with a letter describing the problem.
> 
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:16 PM, denton sprague <denton at oregontrail.net> wrote:
> 
>> this also occurred with the amp bypassed and rig hooked up to dummy load…
>> guess I shud read my posts 2-3 times before posting them!
>> 
>> On May 24, 2015, at 9:27 AM, denton sprague <denton at oregontrail.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> did that…you are correct with the orion….
>>> does not occur with the Omni 7 though….
>>> for the present will just use the external ptt switch.
>>> 
>>> On May 24, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at DJ0IP.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Denton,
>>>> 
>>>> Turn your mic gain all the way down and try switching with the mic's ptt
>>>> switch again.
>>>> Check if it still goes to fault on 160m.
>>>> I have a hunch that the noise of the switch is applying audio, thus RF power
>>>> and that is triggering the fault.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure how to fix it but if we can determine that is the cause, then at
>>>> least we have a starting point and something to work with.
>>>> 
>>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of denton
>>>> sprague
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:51 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7
>>>> 
>>>> An update...went thru the usual when going from barefoot to an
>>>> amp..connectors, coax check, chokes, grounding, etc.
>>>> Got it relatively tamed.but I also notice that when using the mic switch on
>>>> any mic will cause the agc light to come on when switching from transmit to
>>>> receive.
>>>> That will cause the amp to go into fault mode on 160.
>>>> If I use an external ptt switch using the aux cable, this does not occur.
>>>> I swapped out the Orion for my Omni 7 this am and this problem does not
>>>> occur.
>>>> Pin 1 problem? guess could call TT in a few days and see what they say.
>>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2015, at 6:36 AM, denton sprague <denton at oregontrail.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> got the amp yesterday and its up and running.works fb.except for slight
>>>> glitch on 160 meters..keeps wanting to go into fault mode if anything over
>>>> 400 watts out to the antenna.
>>>>> works fb on dummy load though.
>>>>> antenna is short for 160 so that might be part of the problem.
>>>>> Is there an interface cable to allow my Orion and/or Omni 7 to allow
>>>> either rig to select the ale 600's bandpass filters?
>>>>> I was informed not to interface alc cable between the rig and amp.any 
>>>>> comments on this? thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 20, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at DJ0IP.de> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> With SSB, NONE.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With CW, well two potential problems.
>>>>>> The relay in the ALS-600 is very slow - about 20ms on average - 
>>>>>> despite Ameritron's claim of 15 ms.
>>>>>> You need to add some time sequencing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unfortunately the 15mS pre-dit delay is fixed and not adjustable, but 
>>>>>> it goes a long ways in protecting the relay on the front end.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You also need to add a couple hundred ms of hang delay.  The OM7 has 
>>>>>> a menu item where you can do this but by default it is turned off 
>>>>>> (set to 0).  If my memory serves me right, I believe it adjusts in
>>>> increments of 50ms.
>>>>>> It's been 7 or 8 years since I have operated an OM7.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But as I said, with SSB it's not really an issue, especially when 
>>>>>> running PTT.
>>>>>> Even with vox it's not as bad as CW because the voice starts soft and 
>>>>>> rises, so the initial blast of RF is at low power (unless you 
>>>>>> sneeze!)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had an ALS-600 for a few years and it is a very nice amp.
>>>>>> If you are serious about CW, Phil Salas, AD5X has two different mods 
>>>>>> to the relays.  You might want to try one or the other.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>>>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> denton sprague
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:46 PM
>>>>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>>>>> Subject: [TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Got a used Ameritron ALS 600 coming in the mail this friday. Anyone 
>>>>>> have any problems running one with either an Orion or Omni 7?
>>>>>> I plan on driving the amp with no more than 50 watts, primarily on 
>>>>>> 160 and
>>>>>> 80 meter ssb.
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