[TenTec] Centurion

[Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP]

Mike, explain what you did not like about it.
The ARB is over-hyped exactly as I described it.
It solves just 50% of the problem that it is hyped to solve.
I can explain that if you like?

At least I am offering suggestions.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of mcelmer1
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:14 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion

I think we can do without personal attacks and the wisecracks.Kinda
paraphased and plagarized from "As Good As It Gets".

Mike Celmer

Mike
W8TRN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 03:06
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion


> Yes!
>
> You are overlooking the fact that the ARB does absolutely nothing except
> enable keying a device (amp) with a different voltage level than the 
> keying
> device (transceiver) can handle  AND  the amp and Orion do not have
> different voltage levels.
> THERE IS ZERO VALUE IN USING THE ARB!
>
> What smoked?  The Centurion or the Orion?
>
> The Orion can also key an amplifier using the traditional single keying 
> line
> method.
> It has no problem keying the centurion with a single line.
>
> Simply connect that line to the PTT/VOX jack on the Centurion as shown in
> figure 1-3 on page 1.6.
> This should get it working for SSB.  BTW, the CONROL MODE switch of the
> Centurion must be set in the PTT/VOX position for this to work.  AND if I
> recall correctly, you also have to go into the menu in the Orion and tell 
> it
> to use this mode.  See the manual on this.
>
> To work CW, the Centurion manual (paragraph 1-2) describes the procedure 
> for
> break in, but it involves using the TX enable keying circuit which I think
> is burned up.  So that is not going to work.  And the ARB certainly will 
> be
> of no help here!
>
> In fact the ARB is USELESS for newer equipment.
> You only need it for keying very old amps.
>
> Unfortunately Ameritron/MFJ hypes the value of the ARB far beyond reality.
> It has no means of addressing keying timing issues, which older devices 
> also
> have.
> So in reality, in cases where it is needed, it only handles half of the 
> job.
>
> Of course the best solution is to repair what has burned up.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of mcelmer1
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:16 AM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion
>
> Let me try this again.
>
> The my Orion 1, TX EN/TX OUT, both 1 & 2 will not key the Centurion - some
> component in that circuit smoked this morning.
>
> So, why not use the ARB to key the Centurion? Or am I overlooking another
> source on the Orion to key the Centurion?
>
> Miike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 15:32
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion
>
>
>> Why are you wanting to use that?
>> What transceiver are you using it with?
>> The Centurion does not need any MFJ stuff to be keyed properly from a
>> Ten-Tec transceiver.
>> It's useless baggage!
>>
>> The ARB 704 is intended for using a newer transceiver with an old amp 
>> that
>> has a T/R relay with high voltage.
>> It is totally useless and excess to your needs if you have a newer amp 
>> and
>> newer transceiver.
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of mcelmer1
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:24 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: [TenTec] Centurion
>>
>> I want to interface a ARB 704 with the Centurion but can not figure out
>> where to connect the ARB.
>>
>> Do I use the Key In or Key Out RCA's on the Centurion?
>>
>> Mike
>> W8TRN
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